The Shatzkin Files


My advice is not always easy to follow, but sometimes it proves right anyway


I was interviewed a couple of weeks ago by a journalist who was working on a story about publishers and digital change. He was building something around my “Stay Ahead of the Shift” speech from last year’s Book Expo.

“I was impressed by that speech,” he said. “You were very prescriptive about what publishers should do. So my first question for you is whether anything has changed since that speech?”

“No,” I said.

“Well then, would you say that trade publishers are doing any of the things you suggested? Have they taken your suggestions on board?”

“No,” I said.

“What would they say, then, about the assessment you offered? If I put you and a major trade player on a stage together to discuss the content of that speech, where would they say you went wrong?”

“They wouldn’t,” I said. “They’d probably say I was right and that they’re doing what I suggested. But they’re not.”

We moved along and talked about how the world is indeed, as I said, moving to vertical. We talked about publishers like Hay House and F+W and others that have extensive email lists of book purchasers that they can target directly, and inexpensively, every time they publish a new book. These are advantages and marketing capabilities that the big general publishers don’t have.

After we’d been talking for a while, the journalist had a last question. “Can you suggest any top executives you think I should talk to for this story?”

I suggested one that I thought was interested in pushing out the company point of view. Didn’t work. “I’ve been trying to get to that person for a week and my calls aren’t being returned,” said the journalist.

Then I mentioned another. “Oh, yes,” I was told. “I talk to that person very regularly.”

“A very smart person,” I said. The journalist agreed.

“So take this on board,” I said. “We’re talking about somebody who is a friend of mine. We’re talking about somebody who understands everything I say very well, but who isn’t implementing it. What does that tell you?”

It tells me that big companies are in the business of acquiring rights, creating products called books, and selling them. They have numbers to meet every quarter. They can’t start switching over their businesses from a model based on selling products to a model based on owning communities just because Mike Shatzkin says that’s the future.

I thought back to two pieces of advice I dispensed over a decade ago. In about 1999, executives at Book-of-the-Month Club paid me a modest sum for a quick-and-dirty strategic assessment. My advice anticipated my later thinking, even before I had learned to articulate the concept of “vertical.” What I told them is “book clubs don’t map into the 21st century. Communities of interest do. So you have to take your hunting and fishing book club and turn it into a hunting and fishing community.”

“How would we monetize that?” they asked.

“I don’t know,” I said. “We’ll have to figure that out.”

So they said “thank you very much” and moved on. They apparently made the (perfectly rational) decision to keep extracting cash from the book clubs until they couldn’t anymore and then sell them, if they could. If you owned a blacksmith shop in 1910, you might not want to invest in developing an auto mechanic’s capabilities just because you could see it coming. You might want to just pull out your blacksmith profits and go into another line of work. Or put the money in a bank.

At about the same time, the owners of the Atlantic Monthly magazine asked me for thoughts about a web strategy. “What are you most known for?” I asked.

“Publishing great writing,” they said.

“And who are your top competitors?” I asked.

“The New Yorker and Harper’s,” they replied.

“Then my advice would be to partner with the two of them and create a web community dedicated to great writing.” That advice also went no further.

Looking back on both of those recommendations, I recognize how hard it would have been to follow them. But imagine there were a Hunting and Fishing community that had been built on the backs of the hundreds of thousands of names BOMC had a decade ago. Think you could sell some red checkered jackets and fishing tackle through it now?

And in this age of diminishing reviewers and proliferating content requiring evaluation for consumers of quality literature, do you think my Atlantic-New Yorker-Harper combo community would have some real power today that could be turned into money? I do.

I see the big publishers developing vertical presences in the few areas where they have enough of a content flow to attempt it: books for kids and teens and the genres, particularly romance and science fiction. And they’re leaving just about all the others to upstarts who are slowly and methodically building their presences in cooking (book publisher Harvard Common Press and web sites like Cookstr and Serious Eats), mind body spirit (Hay House), sustainable living (Chelsea Green), crafts (F+W and C & T, among others) and the list will just continue to get longer.

General trade publishers will soon find themselves handicapped trying to sell anything except the most challenging books: the sure-to-be-big ones that cost a fortune to sign and the fiction, memoirs, hot current topics, and other writing that is the most expensive to promote book by book. And they’re remaining dependent on a very fragile chain of intermediaries.

Just as BOMC pursued a strategy that eschewed converting book clubs to communities in favor of squeezing every penny out of the old model, it is also rational for today’s big publishers to pursue a “last man standing” strategy. It will be a very long time before major authors don’t sell lots of print books and they’re going to need a strong organization to print those books and put them on the shelves that are out there. They need a strong organization. But do they need six?

Aside from “last standing”, the other alternative to my “multi-niche development” suggestion is to convert from a rights-acquiring publisher to a service organization. HarperCollins seems to be at least exploring the development of that alternative.

We have had remarkable stability among big publishers since Bertelsmann acquired Random House in 1999. There are reasons for the owners of every one of today’s players to sustain their present operations for the greater good of the larger organization. But would a 10% reduction in the number of bookstores in the US change their mind? How about a 25% reduction? How many years do you think it will be before we find out?

I’d say no more than five, and it could be two.

I am addressing UK publishers at the Annual General Meeting of the Publishers Association at the end of April. I’m taking another look at the Shift speech to try to re-cast the advice for trade publishers to make it more “followable.” One thing for them is to start thinking about the day when they can sell ebooks globally and, in effect, get distribution in the US market without going through a US publisher. On the one hand, why should they care, since they’re all global companies anyway? On the other hand, we know they do care because the UK publishers have been on a pretty successful crusade to convert Europe from an open market where US and UK editions compete to one that is closed to US entries. I suspect that as ebooks grow to and past a quarter of sales over the next few years, UK publishers will be able to see the virtue in a less rigid territorial regime.

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  • Charles Levine

    Late-in-life wisdom? The consultant's dilemma? And a serious question: why do established publishers have trouble changing how they publish? Milking older technologies makes current financial sense, but risks being undercut eventually by newer, more modern start-ups. Maybe that's just the natural law of evolution in the jungle. Could one of the big six fund such a start-up that would eventually take over its own market share?

  • http://www.vook.tumblr.com/ Tim Barrus

    Last week, with no outreach by me because I don't have time (I'm making vooks), over a hundred people joined my Facebook VOOKS group. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=210147378670

    “I am not representing vooks, but good luck on your road to being published.” Andrea Somberg from Harvey Klinger. One of many.

    What road. Somberg refers to a road with no map that is nonexistent.

    The list of agents not representing vooks goes on and on and on and on and on. It's dreary. So are they. Forward-thinking group. I hear they're into mules (not horses), and they have enough of those this year, and they are no longer accepting jackass submissions.

    There is not a single agent willing to represent a vook, and, of course, no one will talk to you without an agent. It's called a closed shop.

    In a rigged game.

    I guess that the horse/mule/blacksmith business will continue to boomboomboom as horses continue to pull us anywhere and everywhere we want to go.

    Mike is nice to them. He calls them perfectly sensible.

    I call them other things. I will refrain from mentioning them. Mike is nice. I am considered an out of control madman. Right.

    The blacksmith business is hard work. Sweaty. Manure cleanup, too. Today, we forget that part of it. But there are always little ragamuffins around who will shovel for spare change. The vook business is so small, it's almost nonexistent. There is manure. Most of it from book publishers. I shovel it every day.

    In fact, the vook business is right where they want it.

    I say: but the Facebook numbers and the rate of growth indicate…

    They say: What is Facebook.

    Kindle and Lulu have no plans to add vook video and Lulu has no plans to interface vook video with I-Pad which eschews Flash. Same with Smash, but they'll list your work if you put it on Microsoft Word 2007.

    There's a blacksmith business on every corner; sometimes two, and the marketshare on horses is owned by a few players in a busy little town in Germany no one ever heard of, but has a lot of busy suits.

    Who run television stations from a distance. For the European aristocracy. Oh, I forgot. I have no idea what I am talking about. I'm mad.

    They have no idea.

    All of this, perfectly sensible. So was World War One.

    I give up on the agents. Most of them are too pompous and self-important to return an email anyway. In fact, most of them are only now “open to electronic submissions.” The brave new courageous world. They defend themselves every day to me that the Kentucky Derby still exists. They want Thoroughbreds who can ein the Triple Crown. In fact, that's all they want. They whisper in my ear: do you know Tom Clancy.

    No.

    I agree with Mike. I think what they need is another panel. When you look around at the I-Pad apps that are ready to go as I write this, but probably won't find real numbers of consumers until Christmas, I side with Mike's assessment of two years.

    Maybe one.

    Another forward-thinker-agent asked me,” What's an app? I jest, but not about that. I'm a jackass. A fraud. I brought publishing to its knees in the age of trust, and everything you read on Google is true.

    “App is a new horse feed,” I said. “You should put all your money into it and corner the mass market.”

    There is a reason Steve Jobs only rarely crawls out of his hole to survey what they're up to.

    It's painful.

    “What's a blacksmith,” he asked me.

    “They make shoes for us jackasses,” I said.

    And then he disappeared like a djin back into his hole.

    Mike recommends patience. I recommend antidepressant pills.

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    Charles, *if* I have *any* wisdom at the moment, it is definitely
    “late-in-life wisdom.”

    I just had a meeting at lunch today with somebody who has an Internet idea
    for a service and who was looking for marketing ideas. The obvious one is
    “get content to use as bait” to attract potential customers. She doesn't
    have any content and we were brainstorming how to get publishers to “give”
    it to her, in return for clicks through that would deliver book sales for
    them. Meanwhile, the traffic would deliver more lasting value to her.

    So I think this will replicate and publishers will find service providers
    knocking at their doors looking for content. Will any of them be smart
    enough to say “good idea; we'd like to be your partner” is the question
    provoked by your comment.

    Mike

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    Great blogpost, Tim. But not a comment. It really belongs on your blog (if
    you have one), not mine.

    I'll let it stay up this time. Next time I won't. I take my job seriously as
    an editor for my audience, not just a writer. As you know if you've ever
    submitted a book or an article to one, editors don't have to explain “why.”

    Mike

  • Golly

    Maybe the big publishers don't have the head space to make the changes they need to; they are too busy fire fighting.

    Re. your comment around building communities, the Times newspaper are doing this well in the UK – monetizing their readership by cross selling with wine clubs and travel services to name two businesses.

  • richardbard

    I've been following this blog for the last year and a half. As a first-time commercial fiction author with a very successful marketing and management career under my belt (in unrelated industries), I recognize the value of your insight with regards to the rapidly changing landscape of the publishing industry. What better place to keep a tab on things while I finished my first blockbuster?

    Now I’m ready to go to market. My unpublished thriller, BRAINRUSH, has achieved remarkable success during test-marketing on the Harper Collins Authonomy site. It’s also doing very well on Amazon’s Breakthrough Novel Award contest. But so what? Sure, now I’ve attracted a good agent. I even have a Hollywood producer negotiating hard for the film rights. That’s all good, but I still need to get the book published, and it’s still not clear which route is best in the long run.

    It appears obvious that five years from now publishing will be unrecognizable as compared to what it looks like today. So which route should a new author pursue? Should he go the traditional publishing route, hoping that the Big Boy’s sinking ship will save room for him in the lifeboats? Or should he steer his efforts toward self publishing through one of the new outfits that have sprouted up—the ones claiming to be ahead of the game with their focus on vertical integration in this brave new market? (Like Amazon’s Createspace.) In both cases, the author is going to be responsible for marketing the book and creating a platform. There will be little, if any, help from the publisher. But at least in the case of the self-publishing route, the author’s share of the take is substantially higher.

    Which way does the smart Author turn these days?

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    Stop the presses!!! A Rupert Murdoch-owned property is doing smart things on
    the Internet.

    (Don't tell Rupert…)

    Mike

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    Richard, I'm flattered to be asked. My hunch would still be that you're
    better off with a publisher, particularly if you have a decent agent and
    even more so if you have movie interest, which tends to help a publisher
    remember that they have a marketable property. You're right that you have to
    do all the marketing; you don't need to add the burden of managing the
    process and, of course, there are still bookstores to reach that your
    self-publishing efforts will never do as well as a publisher. Even one that
    isn't paying much attention.

    Mike

  • Luv4writers

    It's not just book clubs that don't map into the 21st century, the vast majority of book publishers, including the big six, do not either. They followed their well worn paths in this first decade pretty well. However, they are using irrelevant atlases and outdated compasses. Most do not recognize (or admit) this, and in less than three years, it will be too late.

    You were well ahead of the curve to suggest to the clubs “communities of interest,” and right on the money in your last year's Book Expo speech. You gave them all fair warning.

    Reading the published patent applications from Adobe, Google and Yahoo would serve publishers well. As a “futures analyst” for one of the mentioned, I would venture that publishers have no idea of what is coming as they respond to the current eReader and iPad fads.

    These devices are nice bridge technologies, but their proprietary formats and agency distribution and pricing models are not sustainable. As all devices become computers (cell phones, televisions, eReaders, mp3 players), the convergence changes the dynamics of what it means to create, deliver, use and consume content.

    When the innovations in intellectual property licensing and digital distribution from the above three take hold, writers who create such content and the readers who consume it will become the power players in the 21st century publishing world.

    This will occur because writers will not need agents or publishers to reach “communities of interest.” Instead, they will reach them through Internet constellations (loose networks) of readers. Those readers will consume content on “convenient time” (on demand) licensing and paying for such content on a per use basis.

    Printed books and magazines will be an important element in this new world. However, their creation and development will be based much more on readers' pull rather than on publishers' push.

    The publishing industry is forewarned.

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    Obviously, we're very close in our thinking. But I still think there's a
    marketing piece in there somewhere that a publishing *function* (if not a
    publisher) will have to perform within the vertical. There will be a lot of
    content competing for attention and managing its exposure to the community,
    amplifying crowd-sourced reviews, etc. will still be necessary and it won't
    all be done by the author and reader.

    Mike

  • Luv4writers

    Mike,

    You are absolutely correct. There is now and will be even more content competing for attention. I'm not sure, however, that publishers (in the traditional definition of the word) will necessarily help since many are not very good at marketing their assets now. Perhaps this is where they should be heading, taking your suggestion to convert from rights acquirer to service provider.

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    You're right. Not publishers as we now understand them. A new role working
    within the verticals. But a publishing *function* nonetheless.

    Mike

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