Notes from a lecture by Professor Cader


Michael Cader did a brilliant analysis of Thursday’s New York Times piece on ebook pricing, published exclusively for paid subscribers to Publishers Lunch. The Times piece’s shortcoming was that it tended to sensationalize the news that the prices the public will pay for current brand-name ebooks will be going up. If you observe the book business for fun, you can perhaps afford not to have access to content like Michael’s analysis. But if you’re in it for a living and you want to seriously keep up with what’s going on, I suggest you save $20 somehow on other publications each month and reinvest it in a Publishers Marketplace membership. I am not the only blogger moved to make this suggestion by this piece.

I am working under the rash assumption that Cader will not sue me for quoting his remarks without regard to fair use limitations (particularly after the commercial in that first paragraph.) Of course, I do my best to add some Shatzkin Files value to my quotes and paraphrases as well.

Michael’s overall point, as I read it (and these are my words, not his): “we in the business know what’s going on with ebook pricing; apparently reporters outside the business do not. And therefore a great deal of misunderstanding is circulated among the book-buying public and it behooves the trade publishing community to get the word out to make sure that the public understands what’s really behind what they pay for ebooks.”

His device to illustrate this point is to describe some common misunderstandings fostered by the Times piece — all of which are real misunderstandings and none of which are just convenient straw horses — and knock them down.

Frankly, it is only the overall point on which I’m not sure I agree. I am not convinced it makes much difference whether we push the “truth” out or not. Amazon’s recent “concession” statement over the Macmillan dust-up tried to channel potential consumer anger at Macmillan and away from them. That’s an effort that is bound to fail. Everybody who buys from Amazon knows that they’re buying from Amazon. On the other hand, “Macmillan” is not an active book imprint at the moment in the United States. The books the corporation called Macmillan puts out are under the imprints St. Martin’s, Farrar Straus, and Holt, and their subsidiary imprints. My wife found the Macmillan Dictionary for Children online and that book is published by Simon & Schuster! So good luck to Amazon trying to get the consumer to punish a corporate entity whose name isn’t on the cover of its books.

But the myths Cader describes are ubiquitous misunderstandings and they were clearly promoted in the Times piece. As Michael describes them (in italics):

* $9.99 never was the top e-book price; people pay more than that every day.

The Times piece makes a big deal out of consumer expectations of the $9.99 price. Cader points out that recent data from the ebook retailer Kobo described at Digital Book World — which shows that at Kobo they sell as many books for more than $9.99 as they do for exactly $9.99 — and Amazon’s own data undercut that notion. Cader says surveys of Amazon data have shown that 30% of the SKUs are priced higher than $9.99.

I have been told directly by a responsible person at Amazon that 4% of the titles they sell are deep-discounted to $9.99 and those represent 25% of the total sales. Of the other 75% of the sales, many (most) are less than $9.99 without necessarily deep-discounting, according to Cader, 30% are more. I have personally bought many Kindle books for more than $9.99 and some for more than $14.99.

But what I’d see as the biggest fallacy in this whole “customer expectations” meme was not mentioned by Cader. So far we have a relatively small percentage of book readers who have ever purchased an ebook at all! General consumer expectations can not be set by a sliver of the group who are early adapters. In fact, publishers are being smart precisely because they are tackling this consumer pricing problem before the market really does become general and a large population of book readers do have experience with the current price structure.

* The implicit, false promise of cheap e-books was made by the people who profit, at very nice margins, from selling the devices, not from publishers.

This is true for the $9.99 books offered by Amazon and Sony and, now, Barnes & Noble. Other etailers, like Kobo or B&N before the Nook, were offering that same price to keep up with (keep down with?) Amazon. But the central point is right. Amazon created the expectation of $9.99 pricing to sell readers; publishers didn’t create it to sell books!

The two companies most likely to save publishers from an Amazon stranglehold on their future general readership, Apple and Google, would also place “margin from ebook sales” very low on their list of objectives for participation in the ebook supply chain.

If the market really could stabilize with three or more reliable paths to the general ebook consumer, with price competition among the content,  but not price-competition driven by external forces, it would be one of the most important strategic accomplishments of the current generation of publishing management, to whatever degree their policies enabled it to happen.

* Brand-new ebooks sold at $9.99 are generally sold at a loss by the retailer.

And, as Cader goes on to point out, this is led by a retailer with a $50 billion market cap with an implicit expectation that it will drive smaller retailers out of the game. Publishers are taking the steps they are explicitly to encourage a more diverse marketplace. So, Mr. and Ms. Consumer, whose side are you on?

* People who can afford an ereading device can afford all proposed ebook prices.

Cader is making the point that conscientious reporters should make put price complaints into context. I’d personally dwell more on the “dog bites man” aspect of reporting that people favor lower prices. Has anybody ever found a consumer who favored higher prices? Has anybody ever found anybody who would prefer to pay more for anything they buy? From here it would seem that all reports of what people say they want to pay or say they would pay in some hypothetical circumstances are pretty much meaningless. Michael says “put them in context.” I really wonder whether this kind of senselessly speculative commentary ought to be reported at all!

* Publishers are lowering [my emphasis] their ebook prices.

Cader captures the massive irony of what is going on here with this one. From reading this piece or from reading Amazon’s note to Macmillan, you’d get the impression that “greedy” publishers are “raising” ebook prices. That’s not actually the case. The publishers going to the Agency model are actually reducing their price per unit sold; they’re just insisting that booksellers not sell those books as loss leaders. As Cader put it, “we in the trade know that publishers are preparing to lower their ebook prices by 50 percent or more, and reduce their own profit margins. But customers don’t; they hear that publishers are raising prices.”

* The new “top price” is going to be $12.99 more often than not.

The public reporting is that the Agency-priced books from Apple will be $12.99 and $14.99, with no additional detail. Cader seems to know that most, or at least a large number, of those books will be at the lower of those two prices. Undoubtedly, some people will refuse a book they want to read on a device they paid over $200 for because of a $5 difference in price ($14.99) from their prior expectation ($9.99). But somewhat fewer will be reluctant at $12.99, which is where the price will apparently be a great deal of the time. Certainly, nobody writing for a newspaper knows the future balance between those two price points.

* Surveys show many people will pay more than $9.99 for ebooks.

Cader points out (and my personal repeated experience confirms) that people often do pay more than $9.99 now, even according to the stats we’ve seen. But what he doesn’t point out, so I will, is that those stats are stacked!  Amazon prices all the hottest and most desireable books at $9.99, and therefore so does Kobo and other Amazon competitors. So the clustering of consumer purchasing around that price is largely driven by the appeal of the product at that price point.

That is: people bought the book, not the price!

* Goldman Sachs says ebook prices are not the biggest factor in purchasing a device–but expensive devices are an obstacle.

This is from a survey that Cader has seen and I have not. But the point is that portability is the main benefit consumers see in ebook devices, with price running second and ease of purchase nearly even with price as a perceived benefit. Ebook purchase decisions are not made on price alone.

What this data also would tell us is that ebook reading is going to spread because the price of devices is coming down and the circulation of ebook-able devices, smartphones and iPads, is increasing regardless of dedicated reader prices.

* Publishers have rewarded and honored early ereader adopters with a lot of free book giveaways, and some very inexpensive price promotions.

Much has been made in other places (not in the Times piece and not in Cader’s report) of the fact that the Kindle “bestseller list” contains a lot of free or almost-free books. Some of those are public domain titles, but many are not. Those that aren’t are provided by publishers as promotions, usually an offer of an older book by a multi-title author who has a new one just out. Does any retailer billboard the publishers who “have made books available for you for free?” Not that I’ve ever seen.

I do believe that the price of content will be driven down over time because of the laws of supply and demand. The amount of content being made available every day is staggering. However, the established publishing companies still have pretty much a monopoly position on curating and branding it. Curating and branding save consumers an enormous amount of time and effort; that’s why they are willing to pay for them. Publishers and the authors whose brands they are enhancing and maxmizing are operating in an increasingly competitive world, but they are both totally sensible and totally unremarkable in trying to maximize the rewards for their efforts.


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  • clmaxwell
    FYI: I have been reading 4 books a week for 50 years and cannot afford to pay top price for books. I prefer reading books on my kindle but I won't pay more for a kindle book than what I can pay at Target or can find at a used book store. Most of the books I download are either free (there are wonderful collections of classics) or less than the 9.95 price. I will pay more for a book that has lasting value like reference books.
  • There are LOTS of books available for Kindle and in all eformats for much
    less than ten bucks and there always will be. You're in luck.

    Mike
  • Dave
    A frequent theme: "But let's remember that far fewer than 10% of book readers routinely read ebooks."

    Early adopters have the ability to pay more. They choose not to. As the technology goes mainstream, there will be continual downward pressure on prices. Everyone in the publishing industry can wish it weren't so. It won't make any difference.

    The digital generations in their teens and twenties think content should be free, or nearly free. Those pesky early adopter digerati, apparently, see the world differently than you do. And, by the way, they are the folks actually paying for electronic content.

    I encourage the publishing industry to charge as much as they possibly can. Your customers will decide how much your product is worth.
  • Dave, most books -- e or print -- will be bought by people over 50, not
    under 30. It will stay that way for a long time, perhaps as long as there
    are what we call "books". The objective is not to sell the most units, but
    to collect the most dollars.

    Pricing strategies are very tricky things. In this world, there will be a
    lot of evolution over time.

    Mike
  • Cat Faber
    * Publishers are lowering [my emphasis] their ebook prices.

    Publishers are forcing Amazon to charge me more money for the same product. When the price I have to pay is higher, because of the publishers, there is no reason why the intimate details of the accounting should matter to me, or any other consumer.
  • Cat, I totally agree that the intimate details of the accounting don't
    matter to any consumer. The decision is just based on the price you have put
    in front of you. Of course, how you react to the price in front of you IS
    affected by the price of similar goods in the same place and of the same
    goods in a different place.

    Mike
  • Whitney Quesenbery
    I wonder how all of this relates to audio books. Arguably, audio books require a real investment beyond creating the book itself, and yet, Audible offers some really great sales.
  • You're right about audiobooks. They require a substantial investment. How
    the Audible model will hold up over time is an open question. But audiobooks
    are much further along the adoption curve to digital than readingbooks are.
    I believe some adjustments have already been made to trading terms as a
    result.

    Mike
  • rrtzmd
    ...I don't see any reason to get upset...years ago I discovered the joy of usenet, P2P, and "warez" websites...haven't had to pay for a book in years...
  • If I were bragging about theft, I'd stay anonymous too. Fortunately for
    authors and publishers, the ranks of those who want to steal ebooks are
    relatively thin. At least you are in pretty exclusive company.

    Mike
  • rrtzmd
    ...you miss the point...it's a "brave new world"...for better or for worse, the internet makes available a lot of stuff for free...granted, some of it is "illegally" free...nevertheless, many consumers sooner or later ask themselves why they should spend 20-30 dollars on a seven or eight hundred kilobyte mobi file when they can download it for free...witness music and the development of "itunes" as a lesson from history...as ebooks' popularity increase, expect a similar path...I suspect in not too many more years we'll be downloading the latest best seller for $1.99 and everthing else for 99 cents...
  • I know the point. The point is oft-discussed in the circles I'm in and there
    are many advocates of lower pricing that take the position that higher
    prices foster piracy. It's not a novel formulation and, no doubt, it has
    elements of truth.

    It is a fact that people steal and it is one that publishers definitely need
    to factor into their thinking. That doesn't change the fact that downloading
    a copyrighted work for free is stealing intellectual property. No doubt it
    is a symptom of our times that it isn't embarrassing to more people to admit
    that they do it. Or even *brag* that they do it (to make a point, of
    course.)

    Mike
  • rrtzmd
    ..."elements of truth"???...I suspect the music industry would ascribe more than just "elements" to the truth...and now magazines and newspapers are at the forefront of the profit "squeeze" generated by free information via the internet...no doubt most of the current events information is probably "pirated" just as well...that doesn't stop consumers from viewing it and cancelling their subscriptions...and advertisers soon enough saw whose flags were being saluted most -- another "whack" at the bottom line...so now the magazine and newspaper publishers are trying to regain some control of their content and cash flow by chasing newer devices like the "ipad"...but unless they come up with some added value, i doubt they're going to be in any better competitive shape...ditto for book publishers...currently they seem to think they can control prices by virtue of their leverage as the primary source...but the consumer gradually realizes how little ebooks can cost and how easily they can be accessed, they're bound to start weighing the issues...ethics can be financially challenging...and in an ugly economy, in particular, perhaps $30 is better spent on a tank of gas or paying down the VISA bill...moreover, authors might themselves begin to think about getting a bigger piece of the pie...James Patterson might decide to help his readers out and publish directly to them via Amazon's "Booksurge" division...I'm inclined to believe he would do quite well...
  • Well, that's quite a hodge podge there, a lot of which I agree with. But, in
    fact, most of the free content that people are accessing from reputable
    sources -- including just about all the news -- *is* free and is intended to
    be free. The music business is quite different from the book business in two
    fundamental ways. One is that they sold people albums when we all wanted to
    buy songs. The other is that they sell mostly to younger people and the book
    business sells mostly to older people. The combination of those two things
    means that piracy is much less of a problem for book publishers and there is
    more price elasticity for books and authors than there is for music.

    Most people I know who read a lot of books will be happy with the fact that
    the online version is cheaper than the print version and has always been to
    the consumer. They wouldn't be trying to get them for free. And, if they
    did, they wouldn't be bragging about it. Even anonymously.

    Mike
  • rrtzmd
    ...1999 -- RIAA files suit against Napster and ultimately forces them into bankruptcy...2001 -- iPod is introduced...2002-2003 -- iPod sales nil...2003 -- iTunes store introduced...subsequent iPod sales grow exponentially...by 2007, 50% of Apple revenues were related to iPods...by odd coincidence, in 2003 the RIAA starts filing lawsuits against individual users of P2P networks...2008 -- RIAA throws in the towel on individuals but continues to pursue bigger game -- with little success, however...most recently they failed to close down musicmp3.ru and, consequently, you can still go there and download songs for 15 cents apiece...1998 or so -- first ebook readers appear -- no battery life, too heavy...2004 -- Sony comes out with e-ink reader but proprietary format and little marketing -- sales, nevertheless, indicate significant interest...2007 -- Amazon arrives with Kindle -- still a proprietary format but with heavy duty marketing...Christmas, 2009 -- Kindle becomes the most gifted item in Amazon's history and ebooks outsell hard copies for the first time(coming from Amazon, of course, those "numbers" are a little tricky to interpret)...nevertheless, in the past year, nearly everybody and his brother has introduced an ebook reader of some sort...and Apple is opening their own bookstore...granted, history of one thing doesn't necessarily harbinger anything else...but put the name of a book into your favorite search engine and probably you'll find it available for nothing somewhere...and "free" is awfully tempting for even those with substantial moral standards...and I bet somewhere, some enterprising Russian wonders whether he can get away with selling Kindle books for 15 cents apiece...
  • rrtzmd
    ...also, you probably already read this:

    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/23683

    ...but some of it is shortsighted:

    "Some musicians make up for lost royalties by giving concerts, selling T-shirts, or accompanying commercials. For authors there is no equivalent solution."

    ...maybe no "equivalent" solution but perhaps a little "lateral thinking" could come up with some alternatives...
  • I did read it. And a lot of it is short-sighted.

    But even though some "lateral thinking" comes up with ways for writers to
    make revenue in ways other than just selling their written words, the
    overall point is correct. People have always paid for performances from
    musicians. It doesn't *require* any lateral thinking for them. And the
    opportunities are much more plentiful.

    Mike
  • I believe that "ebooks outsell hard copies for the first time" was the first
    day availability of Dan Brown's ebook and not counting the pre-orders for
    the hard copy book. As you said, tricky to interpret. But we certainly
    haven't yet reached the point where that's a norm.

    A key component of making iPods successful was that everybody had gold
    masters of all the music they'd bought on CDs that they could rip into
    iTunes. And, of course, you *want* all your old music accessible with the
    new music. None of this applies to books, or at least to most books. And
    then there's the song versus album problem they had, and we don't...

    And a key component of the failure of ebooks to catch on until Kindle was
    the lack of titles available. Kindle went live with a multiple of the number
    of titles available for other ereaders (about 4 times what was then
    available for Sony.) The first ereaders -- Rocket Book and Softbook -- had a
    laughably tiny number of titles available. That, more than battery life or
    weight, was the shortcoming of their proposition.

    You appear to agree with the most concerned members of the current
    publishing establishment that piracy will be a major problem for the book
    business going forward. I hope you and they are wrong.

    Mike
  • dougom
    "The implicit, false promise of cheap e-books was made by the people who profit, at very nice margins, from selling the devices, not from publishers."

    Um, no. The expectation is created by an observable fact: when you buy a hardcopy book, you're getting a hardcopy book. When you buy an eBook, you get some DRM-protected content, which (as Amazon demonstrated with "1984") can actually be taken away. Further, that content is generally of poorer quality, and almost always comes without any of the extras--maps, illustrations, photos, etc.--that come with a hardcopy book.

    So a buyer looks at this and says, "Huh; why ain't them thar eBook thingies a whole heck uva lot cheeper than this here giant book thing, huh?" And other people with a bit of experience say, "Now wait; no distribution, printing, warehousing, and other costs; why are you trying to gouge me at the full-cover hardcopy price months (or even years) after the book was published?"

    It has nothing to do with the pricing structure attempted by Amazon or other "device manufacturers", and everything to do with observable facts.
  • Jake Kerr
    I daresay that this is probably a pretty accurate portrayal of the consumer perception of ebook pricing.
  • I agree that's the current perception. But let's remember that far fewer
    than 10% of book readers routinely read ebooks. Publishers are taking the
    step they are now so that Amazon and other market-share-hungry retailers and
    device makers can nurture that expectation so aggressively in the future.

    Mike
  • Shem Cohen

    Is anyone else supicious that there is this consumer movement - or so it would seem to read the NYT - that conforms to amazon's pricing strategy of $9.99. I mean, $1.99 sounds a lot better to me...so why does the amazon site have all of these evangelican zealots arguing for $9.99 in the comments? Whether or not you think higher prices are sustainable or you are in favor of lower...why does the NYT think that actual innocent consumers agree with amazon.
  • Shem, I think two things are true. Everybody favors lower prices for
    whatever they buy and most people don't have a lot of imagination. Amazon
    has "established" $9.99; it is lower than most of the alternatives. So
    that's what the underinformed consumer gets behind.

    Mike
  • Jake Kerr
    I think that anyone that feels that consumers don't expect deep discounts on digital product are very much mistaken. We've seen this in every single content industry. Videos on Amazon VOD are much cheaper than the videos sold as DVDs.

    The real issue with consumer expectations in this regard has not as much to do with the Walmartification of America so much as the knowledge that digital distribution is considered cost-free. Nearly all digital goods are seen as having no distribution cost attached to them. As a result, the value is in the underlying content. Consumers give up on the physical good, the artwork, and the assorted other bonus materials, but they get a cheaper price. That is the consumer view today.

    That said, consumers know there is a cost to create content, from songs to books. As a result, I would posit that most consumers take a middle ground on their expectations, and this is truly what publishers are fighting. The thought process is: "I know its cheaper to make an ebook, and hardbacks cost $24.00 so it's probably fair for books to cost $10."

    Adding to this is the cost structures created by other media. Most video purchases on Amazon VOD and album purchases on iTunes are near or at the $9.99 price point. Publishers are facing the "Why would I pay more for a digital book than a movie?"

    Overall, the real battle here is that consumers are savvy enough to know that digital distribution cuts costs. They want that savings passed on to them. Where the consumer needs to be educated is in understanding how much of that discount is reasonable to expect.
  • Jake, everything you say is true. What is also true is that the ebook
    marketplace has transacted a LOT of books at more than $9.99. Kobo released
    sales data indicating that they sell as many books at prices higher than
    $9.99 as they do at $9.99. More than 30% of Amazon's offerings are priced
    higher than $9.99.

    We don't really know about consumer expectations in the book market yet, but
    what we do know tell us that the $9.99 price is not (yet, at least) carved
    in stone.

    Mike
  • Jake Kerr
    Yes, I agree that the $9.99 price point isn't or should be written in stone. The key point is discounts are expected. In this regard, I actually agree with Macmillan on this.
  • The price of content will certainly be driven down due to a number of factors. Book prices have over the years been affected by market conditions, formats, remainders and of course scheduling. Ebooks at this time are less than 5% of the over-all publishing market. The vast revenue streams still remains paper. Publishers control when new ebooks (content) come to market and which in turn impacts pricing. Amazon decided to take a loss on ebooks. Many observers believe it was in order to sell Kindles which are very profitable. People who like ebooks tend to buy more than one which is good news for the publishing industry. Amazon has done great work in the building of the ebook business. There is great savings to Amazon when they sell a book in the ebook format.

    Like paperbacks which are priced lower than hardcovers consumers have been able to choose over the years price over when the book is bought. That should be the case for ebooks. Now that is not to say there are not publishers who will want to be in the ebook format only and who wish to release ebooks immediately. That is fine too for them.

    The New York Times piece was slanted towards a specific consumer who wants to buy only at the lowest price. I call that "The Walmart Effect", and that is fine as long as they are offered the product down the publishing line. They should not complain as the cheap edition will arrive but not at the start date. It is the same for the movie industry. Films are in the theaters first at a one price and then they released in a different format at another price. Now Amazon or IPad can sell later products at a loss if they wish. Every retailer has that option.

    As far as consumers go they of course want to pay as little as possible for books, food, cloths, medicine, etc. That is natural. The Times choose to use the author Catherine Coulter as an example and unfortunately for the Times they did not do their leg work. If the reporter had spoken to me, her agent, I would have told the reporter that by holding the line on the ebook release first, the sales that were made propelled the author to the #1 spot on the New York Times bestsellers list. Ebooks are not counted by the Times. Secondly, the authors sales of books at the normal trade discount through normal channels grew by more than 10% without taking the hit of a lower price point for ebooks. Thirdly, the ebooks that were sold after the initial hardcover release were strong and added to the over-all increase of sales for Catherine Coulter.

    The Times quoted a book buyer who does not want to pay more than $9.99 for books. If a title is available at that price he will be happy and if not than he has to wait until the price hits a level he likes during the publication schedule. He and others who think in this fashion should understand that there are serious costs connected to publishing good books that consumers want to read. In order to deliver excellent to of the line product to consumers pricing plays a major factor for all the parties involved with bringing great book product to market.

    Publishers are working on anecdotal information for the most part and rushing to use "The Agency Model". Like Lemmings they are standing at the cliff and thinking about their next move. If they decide to put out lower priced ebooks to complete with the initial hardcover price they are cutting their own throats. No one knows where this will all end up but taking intelligent steps to maintain the publishing industry must be done thoughtfully. And let me add that if publishers refuse to give authors a fair share of profits from ebooks I believe it will encourage many authors to go into that format first without the traditionally publisher on board. Then after to offer paper rights for publication in that format. As the brick and morter business shifts to the online retailer agents who handle authors need to gather as much knowlege as possible to better represent their client.

    Robert Gottlieb
    Chairman
    Trident Media Group, LLC



  • Charles Levine
    Another very important point made here, too: When will the NY Times start taking into account e-book sales? I know there are logistics to consider here: for example, should there be a separate e-book bestseller list, or for now add e-book to p-book sales for a combined listing? When something like this happens we will pass another developmental milestone in the infancy of this new market.
  • It is worth noting that right now USA Today has ebooks in their bestseller
    calculations but nobody else does. They had Kindle only for a while, but
    recently announced they were adding in ebook sales from other sources as
    well.

    Mike
  • Jake Kerr
    As costs are much lower with ebooks than hardbacks, I can't see how it is a win for a publisher to want to sell hardbacks at a higher price than an ebook, assuming the actual dollar value margins are the same. If they make $10 per sale with a $24.00 hardback, then why not release a $14.00 ebook if they make $10 per sale with that?

    Of course, I don't know what the hard cost is for printing, shipping, and physical distribution. Those tend to be significant in the music industry, so I will assume that's the same in publishing. Regardless, simply removing these and keeping the margins is a win, no?

    I am curious about the impact on royalties, however. Of course a lower price point is bad if your royalties are a % of cover price, but if that's NET (subtracting out hard costs), doesn't that also amount to the same? I don't know, however. I'd be curious as to your point-of-view.

    My bottom line is this: If you keep the raw margins the same and remove the costs associated with hard goods, there is no real negative impact of selling an ebook at a lower price than a hardback.

    Of course, I'm sure I'm missing some points due to both naivete and ignorance!
  • Jake, the big "points you're missing" are:

    1. The big publisher players lose their dominance when the print market
    becomes mostly digital.
    2. The retail stores, which are a critical component of the print market,
    are already challenged and losing more sales to digital only will make that
    marketplace degrade more quickly.
    3. The dominant bestseller list -- one that drives sales and awareness -- is
    the NY Times and it only reports print.

    So it isn't about a straight margin tradeoff. In fact the margins were
    absolutely fat under the wholesale-selling arrangement the publishers just
    switched over to Agency. They took a hit to their own revenues in favor of
    price control that they hope will keep brick-and-mortar alive a bit longer.

    The royalty question is a moving target. Right now authors earn less on an
    ebook sale than a print sale; both less of the retail price and less actual
    money. That is a situation that is not likely to last too long.

    Mike
  • Jake Kerr
    1. This is only marginally true. The music market is a good example. Distribution via iTunes is open to practically anyone, but the major labels dominate sales. That said, book marketing is vastly different than music marketing, and I could see indie books and publishers making a bigger dent than we see in music. But, still--the major publishers have the marketing infrastructure to truly mitigate that to a large degree.
    2. The death of mass market brick and mortar book stores is inevitable. It will take time, but it is inevitable. Publishers obviously need to manage that, and it looks like they're doing a better job than the record labels did. Still, publishers can't mortgage their future by being foolish in their support of a dying distribution chain.
    3. The New York Times is certainly doing this due to pressure from publishers and book stores. They would change this overnight if the publishers agreed that this would be the way to go.
  • Jake,

    It will be much harder for publishers to continue dominance than it was for
    the music majors. For one thing, radio play still matters and it requires
    scale to deliver that. There is no such equivalent in publishing, partly
    because marketing is so much more diffuse.

    The big guys are all trying hard to position themselves to be players
    post-bookstores. They don't have their heads in the sand. But it will be
    hard (see above.)

    I don't think the Times is responding to any pressure one way or the other.
    So far, only USA Today has had the interest to mix in ebook sales. It will
    come from the Times in time.

    Mike
  • Robert, thanks very much for this post. We have commented before on the fact
    that the book business has been and will be largely driven by the big author
    brands and that the agents will be critical players on their behalf.

    The Catherine Coulter case is very interesting and the facts you offer
    certainly lead to some different conclusions than the Times piece might have
    suggested.

    Two things really strike me about your post.

    1. Clearly, the new big publisher strategy -- lower ebook list prices
    translating to lower ebook royalties for authors and a simultaneous release
    that could affect hardcover strategy -- isn't making you terribly happy.

    2. The possibility that ebook rights will go somewhere first, which I have
    raised for a while but which the big publishers, uniformly, dismiss as a
    threat because of the power of their checkbook, is definitely more
    threatening when you write it than when I do.

    I put those things together and expect future developments will be worth
    watching and providing blogpost fodder for some time to come.

    Mike
  • KatMeyer
    The pricing discussion that will not die! Agreed that it is going to get more complicated before it gets figured out, which is why it's incredibly frustrating to hear readers place a specific, flat, across-the-board, and well - seemingly arbitrary price point ceiling on ebooks. Yes, early adopters maybe used to paying below $9.99 for their ebooks, but remember dear early adopters, not all ebooks are created equally. Factors such as the quality of the content and reading experience, AND the financial investment in the acquisition, AND the production and marketing costs to the publishers and book sellers, AND what you can or can not do with the file (share, keep forever, etc.).

    Cynical, facetious me would say the energy and passion being channeled into the cheap ebook movement is a waste. For goodness sakes, people - if you are going to demand the right to name your own price for good and services, think bigger! Start with cars, houses, food, education -- I might get on the bandwagon for a shot at a $9.99 Range Rover.

    Non-cynical me would say, the ebook pricing wars are just one more example of how disconnected publishers are from their end users and vice versa. It's not a healthy relationship. Readers and publishers need to get together and go bowling. There's plenty of room for both parties to meet and leave the discussion satisfied, but shouting at each other through blog posts and newspaper articles is probably not the most productive means of arbitration.

    Now, about that $9.99 Range Rover...
  • You know, Kat, I don't think too many readers are shouting at publishers. I
    think the digerati who presume to speak for readers are shouting at
    publishers. And I am delighted with your common-sense post arguing that
    publishers not be hectored into giving the content away (prematurely...)

    The big humongous publishers will probably always ("always" being "as long
    as they last") be "disconnected" from their readers because they achieve
    scale by leveraging the connections so many others have.

    What drives *me* crazy in these "discussions" is the implied presumption
    from so many that publishers are dumb because they don't both give the
    product away *and* make it really easy to steal. It isn't excusable for
    publishers to have so little understanding of their customers and we can't
    presume every customer should understand publishers that way. But the
    posturing that says "I will not buy a book if it is one penny more than the
    price I think is 'right'" is definitely tiresome and probably empty.

    Mike
  • KatMeyer
    Hey Mike:
    Perhaps I just attract vocal readers, but in my experience it's not just the digerati who are shouting about ebook pricing. A lot of actual ebook readers (most of them early adopters, though some who self-identified as new Kindle owners) joined in a recent pricing discussion over at Follow the Reader, and they were quite passionate about the MacMAmazon kerfuffle, siding wholeheartedly with Amazon. To them, the issue was entirely about price - pure and simple. Many stated that if pricing is above $9.99 for a book, then they will not buy that book.

    We'll see. When all is said and done, yes - pricing depends on what the market will bear, but the ebook market is on its way to becoming much more than one market, and Amazon doesn't like that. If Amazon loses, the ebook market continues to evolve into many markets: mini markets, boutique markets, mega markets, even markets within markets. This is a good thing. Shoppers can choose where and how they want to spend their ebook money depending on what features matter most to them: selection, price, customer service, convenience, community, etc.

    And yes, agreed that the relationship between big publishing and readers may always be reliant upon intermediaries (reviewers, book seller, etc.) to be reader ambassadors, BUT social media and the net mean that readers and corporate publishing peeps will increasingly be meeting one another in the wild.

    Dots are being connected all the time - through social media, readers are learning what imprints fall under what publisher - and they're learning who writes or works for what imprint that falls under this or that publisher. So, publisher branding is slowly but surely starting to matter to readers, and smart publishers will embrace this as an opportunity to build direct reader relationships.

    ~ Kat
  • Kat, the number of ereading people is small and the ones who speak up on
    blogs on price is a self-selecting subset. They're not necessarily typical
    of the world at large except, of course, nobody ever says "I want to pay
    more"!

    Mike
  • Charles Levine
    One important point that gets obscured in the discussion of e-book pricing: readers don't buy or own Kindle e-books. They license them. (I realize this is a known fact, but it should be taken into account when comparing e-book prices.) Whereas when you buy e-books in the form of PDFs or in the e-Pub format, you physically download the book to your computer or e-reader, can move from computer to computer or e-reader to e-reader -- and depending on the DRM, in some cases might even be able to lend the book to a friend. As convenient as the Kindle is, I think in the long-run, the licensing model will work against it in the marketplace. I certainly will eventually opt for an e-reader that allows me to buy, not license, e-books. Or, in other words, a Kindle e-book price of $9.99 is not worth the same as a, say, PDF e-book priced at $9.99.

    As an aside, I would like to see more research and discussion about the plusses of instant sampling -- which to me is even more valuable than instant downloading of e-books on the Kindle. When I read a book review or see an author on TV, I can in most cases download a sample chapter immediately and get an excellent idea of what the book is about, of how well the writer writes, etc. I usually can wait a few days to get the e-book if I then decide I want to "buy" and read the whole. But, the e-sample is an instant must-have for me, as I suspect it is for many others. This only adds to the genius of the Kindle's cellular wireless capability, but shifts the emphasis to its sampling and marketing side.
  • Charles, I agree that sampling is an under-emphasized part of the ebook
    experience. And AMZN has this down much better than anybody else. I haven't
    seen a comparably seamless experience going from the sample to the full book
    purchase.

    There are at least three possible resolutions to the buy-versus-license
    dichotomy you spell out. You seem to be positing a DRM-free world, where you
    can "own" the digital product the way you do a physical one. That exists now
    for a lot of ebooks not issued by commercial publishers, such as every book
    on Smashwords. Another solution would be for ebooks to cost less than print
    books so that "compensation" for the more limited use is built into the
    price. And the third would be to "enhance" the ebook so that it delivers
    more value than the print in ways other than lendability or giveability.

    We'll see activity on all three fronts, perhaps even simultaneously on some
    titles. You could have different purchase options (cheapest is "just for
    you", being able to lend it costs more, etc.) for the same title and I am
    certain we will see different renditions of the same title: not just
    enhanced versus unenhanced, but even different flavors of enhanced.

    This is all going to get more complicated before it gets simpler.

    Mike
  • Hi Mike.
    Great post as always.
    I just wanted to add my two cents regarding pricing. As a small fish, we can't compete with Amazon on pricing or selection - thats clear. What's also clear is that people will pay for quality content. Our average sale prices vary, but a large percentage is above the chimeric 9.99.
    The important point is that people will pay the premium for the content they want, in the format they want, when they want it. Is that really so difficult to deliver? (I'm thinking here of delayed eBook releases, prohibitive drm systems and the plethora of formats out there)
  • David Sucher
    I didn't mean to suggest that publishers will sell direct. They can and will sell direct but I don't think that is practical: consumers like a central source and lots of very small publishers will get lost and they need to be able to find Google and Amazon etc etc. So there is a big role for the "on-line bookstore." And I would bet on Google since they already have one, they already make money from Google Books

    But publishers will sell an intermediary such as Amazon, Apple. Google or someone teaming up with Bowker (if you don't think they can learn on-line sales) sit a retailer like Costco.

    But that margin does not need to be sell at very much. The retail/distribution bite of the apple used to give 55-60% of the MSRP. That's huge. The retailers have for most part already disappeared. On-line seller/distributors own nothing but a server and an accounting system and their margin needs no more than 5%, I'll guess.

    The analogy with iTunes is not quite right. The iPod completely created and controlled is market. Thank god Apple can't do that with books --- both Amazon and Google (and others) will be fierce competitors. Kindle will have to open to all formats -- it's the very reason I haven't bought one. So if Kindle opens up formats, then Apple will have to do so. Thus on-line selling costs become competitive.

    You know more than I do of course and maybe Bowker makes no sense but since they have a huge database, I can't see why Books on Print is opened up and can sell directly through any one of a number of groups which know retail such as Costco.

    Btw, one of the central premises is that on-line selling can and will become intensely competitive and ebook sales margins will drop to very little. I really can't see why online ebook sellers should sell more than does eBay -- which is not a bad idea at all. I just checked and so far as I understand, eBay's cost to sell a book for any price above $1 is 15cents! That certainly gets the order of magnitude for online ebook sellers! (Check the fee schedules -- they are interesting.)

    Btw, and this point is huge, are you disagreeing that publishers CANNOT sell ebooks for 20-25% MSRP? or that publishers PREFER NOT to do so? Of course the latter is what they want. So would I in their shoes. :)

    I am just not clear on how you view it.

    But I believe, based on the costs I understand directly, that authors/publishers/on-line sellers can be nicely profitable at 20-25%.

    •••

    Who knows of course. But I think that the physical tactile charm of the ebook device (at first the iPad and then many many others) will provide a superior book reading experience and print book sales will fall rapidly. Publishers will print a token number of paper books for archives and 'collectors.'

    My point is that of course publishers will try to keep prices high. But they compete between each others and between categories of books.

    But than again, it's a brave new world and maybe consumers will make a turnabout to vellum and manuscript.
  • Alan Harvey
    I have to interject a few other costs that can't simply be removed from this crude analysis:
    1. Editing. I know many ebook-buyers are accustomed to reading their content online, replete with grammatic faux-pas and typos, but that's rarely the case with printed books. Yes, standards may vary, but any literature student will be able to tell you the value a solid editor (and copyeditor) was able to provide to most of the great works. While this isn't exactly expensive, the infrastructure (including typesetting, which still does not disappear in the digital world - it is merely replaced by often-more-expensive "coding") is not free.
    2. Marketing. Are we really to assume that readers will simply "discover" their books online without any push from the publisher? Most publishers spend upwards of 20% of their revenue on marketing. In your 10;10 split of revenue between publisher and author, who pays for the NY Times ads?

    And this doesn't begin to touch upon back-office functions that remain essential to a functioning organization: rights/permissions, finance, IT infrastructure, etc. Again, not all free.

    I agree that it is entirely feasible to self-publish and avoid many of these costs. But I don't really envisage a world in which every author self-publishes. Branding and expertize still count for something, and have tangible value that needs to be reflected in pricing.
  • David Sucher
    I agree Alan.
    As I said, editing and marketing are essential.
  • Alan Harvey
    And cannot be done within 20% (10% for publisher).

    Everybody, including authors, wants to take a bigger slice of this virtually-expanding pie. E-book royalties often run at roughly double those for print. And, agency model aside, online retailers expect a bigger share of revenue even than print wholesalers. Adding all these in to your analysis, as well as the essential back-office, you get to Michael Cader's 50%.

    Much as people seem to think publishers have their heads in the sand (or other less sunny spots), we've run and re-run the numbers. This is not a wasteful industry, with most publishers running close to shoe-string operations. Basing journalistic analyses on rumors and assumptions about the very few fat cats around, as the Times story did, could potentially harm us all.
  • David Sucher
    Time will tell, Alan. There is no way for anyone to know. So it's almost all surmise and conjecture.

    But I am optimistic.

    I believe that publishing as a whole will do fine because editing and marketing --"gatekeeping" -- are as and maybe more important. But parts of the industry in producing and moving physical objects will be devastated. So publishers will pare down some staffs.

    But because of instant gratification (quick on-line) and lower prices, people will (hey! it's cost/demand!) sell more books that they ever have. So publishers (in a new form) can do well.

    As to a statement like "online retailers expect a bigger share of revenue" both flies in the face of common sense and also that expectation are not always relevant, as many of us have learned about real estate values.

    As I said, no one knows for sure but my surmise is that publishing will change, margins will decrease and on-line retailers will cut percentages, ebook prices will be lower, readers will BUY MORE BOOKS and publishers can do well financially.

    It's unknown territory -- and again I believe that no one knows for sure -- but we'll all start to see next summer, after the iPad.
  • It ain't gonna just be the iPad. It may not even be *primarily* the iPad.
    The iPad is a great device, it will do very well, and certainly books will
    be read on it, but it is too heavy to be ideal as an ebook reader. Quite a
    bit too heavy. And there will be a lot more competitive (and lighter)
    devices for ebook reading coming on to the scene.

    Mike
  • David Sucher
    Oh, no question that there will be many new ebook reading devices. And maybe some beter. But the iPad will establish the market.

    Btw, as to weight, I thought the iPad is scheduled for 1.5 pounds? Are you suggesting that that is too heavy? The Kindle DX btw is 18 oz.
  • The difference between 1.5 pounds and 18 ounces is 25% looking from one
    direction and 33% from the other. Not very people read narrative books on a
    Kindle DX and it really wasn't intended for that.

    Yes. A lot of ebook reading is done with one hand. It's one of the great
    advantages.

    And the other thing is that the backlit screen is not optimal for ebook
    reading (versus e-ink.) I personally have no problem with it and read
    *all* books
    on my iPhone (have now for 12 months.) My wife reads on a Kindle and
    wouldn't read on an iPhone. For some people that's because it is "too
    small". But for most it is because the backlist screen causes eyestrain for
    continuous reading. And the *larger *screen of the iPad will make it *worse.
    *

    The iPad will be a big hit. It will be great for illustrated books; it will
    be great for college textbooks. Measured that way, it will have a big impact
    on the book business. But it will not be how most people will read Paterson
    or Evanovich in digital form.

    Mike
  • David Sucher
    Yup, it's a huge market. Personally I (used to) read plenty of books which weigh 2 or 3 or 4 pounds so a 1.5 pound iPad doesn't floor me. But then again, that is what makes markets.

    (Looking to Fortune's covers story on "Reading.")
  • David, if you're talking about what will take place over the next 15 or 20
    years, large elements of what you say will be true. But your analysis is
    really about the segment of books generated and sold by publishers today. In
    an ebook-world, that will be a small part of the total available output and
    most of the "retailing" will take place within market niches (where you'll
    buy your travel, gardening, knitting content, whether it is called "books"
    or not.)

    I agree with you about the reduction in margin -- in fact, I wrote a
    blogpost saying it had to go that way last April!

    And I also agree with you that the music analogy doesn't hold up and that
    iTunes created a lock-in that nobody will be able to create for books. But
    we can't blame AMZN for trying. Google is going to also try with their
    "locker in the cloud" where you should "store" all your ebooks, but, of
    course, storing all your books in one place doesn't have the same attraction
    as storing all your music in one place.

    Mike
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  • asotir
    Mike, one thing that publishers will find a problem: keeping ebook prices 'competitive' with physical books, just won't wash. If you go to Amazon and look up a book, and find the trade paperback selling for a discounted $11, and the ebook selling for no-discount $14, then you are going to buy the trade paperback. If you find the hardback selling for a discounted $15, and the ebook selling for $14, then you are going to buy the hardback.

    Most people see 'real books' as having a greater intrinsic value than ebooks. And as readers get more informed as to the temporary nature of ebooks with DRM, and how digital files created 15 years ago are no longer readable in many cases (either because the hardware to read them is no longer available and working, or because the files themselves are now corrupted beyond recovery) then the readers will value ebooks less and less.

    Convenience is worth something. But small and light notebook computers were never anything more than a fraction of the market when a 12" screen model with slower processor and less memory sold at $2000, and a 15" screen regular, heavier notebook with faster processor and more memory sold at $600.

    There is also something 'magical' about the 9 in pricing. It's why Apple iTunes sold so many 99-cent songs, and why Amazon settled on $9.99 as their ideal standard.

    Frankly, I can't see ebooks selling at prices 'competitive' with physical books. This has been the aim of publishers for ten years now, and we've always suspected that the reason was to protect the relations publishers had with bookstores. But the plain fact is, a book you can pick up with your hands and give to friends, and resell, and that you have confidence your grandchildren might be able to read, will always seem to have more intrinsic value than any digital file.

    We won't pay 'competitive' prices.
  • Sorry, but the book you can pick up and hold in your hand etc. has more
    value to *you*. It doesn't to me. It is dangerous to generalize from one's
    own behavior. That's what led me mistakenly to think ebooks will catch on
    nearly 10 years ago.

    Mike
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  • David Sucher
    It's vastly premature to even start a shakeout in the book selling business.
    I am ready to buy an iPad. But I am also ready to turn on a dime if Apple's iBookstore pricing and terms are absurd.

    Yes, publishers will try to maintain prices of paper books. Good luck.

    Publishers should be selling ebooks in the range of 20-25% of MSRP to maintain existing margins.

    In fact such margins with ebooks will yield higher net profits:
    1. volume will increase -- I will spend fixed amount of money per month for media -- if it is one paper book for $25 or 5 ebooks for $25 it will be same thing. So profits will rise, if prices not stupid.

    2. Lower risk -- lower capital requirements to print and no warehousing. (Yes buy a server for $1000 to hold thousands of 'warehouse' for storage.)

    One current issue is internal company politics -- whole divisions of people who do nothing but physically handle books -- print buyers, relations to Ingram, more complex book-keeping and returns etc etc. -- hinder book publishers decisions. Profits per unit mean lower overhead. Just think about less cost of returns!

    Prices for ebooks will go down as many books are fungible. There will be competition among publishers across broad categories of books. Very very few books are truly unique. (If I simply want a good read and a Ross Macdonald book is $10 and a roughly-competitive one is $5, then what do you think I will buy? And yes there are many "roughly-competitive" series or titles. Imagine a gardening book. Most people will say that that one looks ok and is the right price. None of us are unique.)

    Overall I see vastly good day for publishers -- if they know what business they are in and don't get greedy.
  • David, I think the notion that ebooks living alongside print books can be
    sold at 20-25% of current publisher list prices to be a real stretch. Cader
    has done some math that indicates 50% is is doable, and maybe they can shave
    a little bit more by cutting intermediary discounts, but 20-25% won't cut it
    in the present environment. For one thing, the agents wouldn't stand for it,
    even if the publishers gave 75% of the take to the authors (and then, of
    course, the publishers would be nowhere near getting an equivalent margin.)

    The idea that sales would somehow skyrocket assumes that price, not time, is
    the biggest constraint on current book buying. Even with an aggressive
    notion of shifts from used and borrowed books to purchased at lower prices,
    I can't see the missing margin being made up in volume.

    And I don't think any publisher thinks they will "maintain prices of paper
    books" for ever and ever. I think they think they will slow down the
    migration away from print if they diminish the price differential between
    them. And not only do I think they're right, I think all the people who
    argue for lower-priced ebooks pretty much prove they're right.

    The substitutability factor you cite is real; no doubt about it. Readership
    of Mark Twain and Shakespeare will go up as a result because they will be
    ubiquitously available free in ebooks from now on. Publishers will continue
    to offer free books as promotions. And improved curation over time of the
    vast pool of very cheap and free ebooks from grassroots sources will make
    them more competitive. So prices will go down. Inexorably. But the speed at
    which that will happen is still a variable. And if you make money selling
    books today, slower can be the difference of many dollars.

    Mike
  • David Sucher
    Of course much of what I say is conjecture and surmise. But I don't think it is just BS or a guess.

    I'm suggesting again that a "rational" price for (as an example) a $25 MSRP book will sell for $5 - $7.50 for that same title as an ebook.

    Several huge and very expensive steps -- printing, shipping, distribution, bookstores, returns -- eliminate at least 65-70% of MSRP without doing anything.

    As I understand it, an author (maybe not superstars like a Dan Brown or a JK Rowling) and publisher in traditional terms are happy to get a clear, true, net 20% of gross sales price. Ten for publisher and ten for the author. (That's where I get my 20-25% MSRP figure and since I have self-published a book -- 20,000 copies sold through distributors, bookstores and on-line -- so I think it's plausible that have _some_ idea of the economics.)

    So where is the rest of the meat? If ebook publishing is about anything it is about disintermediation.

    I suggest that there will be _at least_ 4 major and well-capitalized on-line distributors: Amazon, Apple, Google and Bowkers Book-in-Print. (And why not M'sft Bing or or Barnes & Noble? Maybe others.) You can even imagine a Powell's -- say a local bookstore. Presumably publishers will sell direct but I am putting that aside as a minor factor. I any case there will be fierce competition for on-line sales.

    I do not accept that Apple's 30% will last long. I don't know how well Bowker is doing. But Amazon will do fine even without books (it's got a huge variety of goods) and of course book sales are irrelevant to Apple and Google.

    The margins on distribution -- which are virtually risk-free -- can be cut to the bone. Any distributor but especially Google does not even remotely needs to sell $4.50 on a $15. Google is 98% to already get a consumer who has found a title and has reviewed it. Google has already generated advertising and makes money just by a reader looking at Google to find a title. The consumer is ready to buy. Google could easily sell that $15 title for 25cts (or less) but let's back that 5% of MSRP (of that $25) and call it $1.25.

    So there's my 20-25% because there are two factors which both author and publisher can back off on that 20%"
    1. Capital requirements by the publisher are vastly decreased. (In fact there will be many many spin-offs by editors and marketing folks to establish new imprints.)
    2. Sales will go up IF prices go down. And authors are absolutely driven by market share for reasons of ego, subsidiary profits from consulting, speeches etc.

    Why will sales go up if prices go down? I read book reviews and I scan dozens< I don't have time (or money) for every title but if it were easier and cheaper I would say "Oh, yes. That sounds interesting. $25? No. Library? Maybe? The title for $5 (and instantly)? I'll buy more.

    I've done the same with on-line music -- the ability to buy a tune immediately exactly as I am hearing it from the radio -- and I think that similar dynamics will do with books: instant gratification.

    That's my "analysis."

  • Well, first you eliminated any margin for retailers and got to your 20-25%
    price by having the publishers sell direct.

    Then when you restored the idea of retailers (who will need some margin),
    you put Bowker -- a data company that shows no capability or inclination to
    deal directly with individuals in the public -- in as an ebook competitor
    and left out some who actually are (Kobo, arm of Indigo, and Sony and Baker
    & Taylor's Blio).

    The price of ebooks will go down. Publishers will sell more direct. But I
    think you have a long wait in front of you for ebook prices to even get to
    half of print for branded material also published in print.

    Mike
  • Mike, some interesting stuff. Many of these myths have also been cited by folks on the Macmillan side, as well (such as citing $9.99 as a ceiling or sole price for ebooks). And, say what you want about the Apple iPod model, I am not convinced that Amazon and other booksellers are losing money overall on ebook sales or use ebooks as as simply a loss leader to sell devices. Bezos has said the exact opposite and the practice of offering reading software for various platforms seems to back him up (as does the pricing of many ebooks over $9.99).

    But more importantly, I can't agree that publishers have a monopoly on curating and branding - in fact I'd argue that's where they have almost no monopoly. Aside from copyright law, the monopoly results from long-term contracts with best-selling authors, the ability to print on paper and ship out vast numbers of volumes and, finally, distribution "relationships" with the major retailers in various channels (i.e. B&N, Amazon.com, Walmart). The three aspects I just mentioned are almost impossible or very difficult to duplicate, whereas the publishers' roles in curating and branding already are being powerfully displaced and disintermediated because they are easily reproduced or can be better/less expensively performed by other actors (I'd argue the "branding" power of big publishers in 2010 is virtually zero if you mean the power to attract customers).

    The bottom line is -- net, net --- much higher prices for the best-selling ebooks (I will bet anyone that the vast majority of the 100 or so top sellers will be priced at $14.99) and the impact is slower adoption of ebooks and slower sales of ebook reader devices. And the simple reason is to maintain the importance of the three factors I mentioned above for as long as possible.
  • Your analysis is right by my lights. The branding control I refer to among
    publishers is, indeed, the relationship with the top authors and the ability
    to put things into widespread distribution, which creates some "brand" for
    authors that didn't have it already.

    And you're right about the fact that Amazon does not lose money on content
    selling overall. I mentioned in the piece that I was told on good authority
    that only 4% of the titles are deep-discounted, that those comprise 25% of
    sales, and that content sales for Kindle in total were profitable. Don't
    forget there are newspapers in there where AMZN is keeping 70% of the
    revenue!

    And I agree completely on the bottom line: higher prices for branded ebooks
    which will slow down (very slightly, maybe not perceptibly with the trend
    since there are other things pushing the other way) ebook uptake, preserving
    what remains of the 20th century competitive advantages of scale.

    Mike
  • Ted R.
    "General consumer expectations can not be set by a sliver of the group who are early adapters."

    Good point, Mike, and one that I'll try to keep in mind as things sort themselves out during the years to come.

    I myself may be a sliver of a sliver of outlook on ebook pricing. I, a previously anti-Kindle person (I dislike proprietary systems), converted not because of $9.99 NYT bestsellers, which I rarely buy, but because I got fed up with having to pay $15-$27 for the ebook version of a novel out in paperback for $7 or $8. Amazon had such ebooks for no more than the paperback price. I would never have gone Kindle if the publishers had set parity between paper and electronic books in the first place. I was happy with my previous e-ink device and the existing ebook retailers aside from that aspect.

    I wonder how much of a minority I am.
  • robertlfleck
    Ted,

    Then you should be happy with the change Macmillan wants, since it will allow them to dynamically reprice the e-book, meaning that when the hardcover stops selling, the e-book price will drop in line with other available editions ($8 or $9 when there's a $14 trade paperback or $5 or $6 when there's a $7 or $8 mass market paperback). The reason for the old price was because publishers were licensing distribution of the electronic file under the pricing model of shipping and warehousing physical books.

    Anyway, if Amazon wanted to be all pro-consumer, they could simply offer a $5 Amazon Gift Card with every purchase of certain e-books, which does nothing to change the agency model and gives Amazon the appearance of largess. That's why this entire action from Amazon feels more like a bully than anything else.
  • Robert, I wonder if AMZN will be able to offer a $5 gift card with purchase;
    I guess it will depend on the actual written Agency agreement.

    But I don't think it would be possible -- or at least it would be a lot
    harder -- to block something like a "free ebook for every six you purchase"
    or some other volume or loyalty formula.

    Mike
  • robertlfleck
    Mike,

    Indeed, there are a number of ways that Amazon could have achieved its stated goal while agreeing to the change Macmillan wanted. That they didn't do so implies either that they were wedded to their position unreasonably, or that their goals were different from what they stated.

    In the long run, this "digital revolution" will change a lot of things about publishing, certainly, and as an agent, I want to see all of the stakeholders involved (writers, publishers, resellers, and readers) back off and look at possibilities and solutions for convergence, rather than fighting over who controls the change and how fast it comes.
  • Robert, it is hard to disagree with your hopes but also hard to see how
    they'll come true.

    The stakeholders don't feel they can back off. Amazon is sitting on the top
    of the ebook mountain and the only thing they know for sure is that they are
    under assault: from Google, from Apple, from reader software and reader
    devices being created and marketed from far and wide. Their biggest weapon
    so far has been the lock-in created by Kindle, and the *relative* pricing of
    ebooks (cheaper) is an important component of selling more Kindles and
    keeping that lock-in. Of *course*, that's their agenda. (Gambling? Here?
    Impossible! Shocked, shocked!)

    If a real decentralized marketplace for ebooks emerges from all of this, it
    saves the publishing model for another period of time. Of course there will
    be a lot of fighting about that.

    Mike
  • Jake Kerr
    I find it ludicrous that a price point of $9.99 has to be a loss leader. While we see comments that "printing only accounts for 10% of the cost of a hardback," this discounts other unit costs that are removed and are possibly greater than printing, primarily distribution. Digital distribution is incredibly cost-efficient. Outside of royalties, ebooks should be much more profitable as blockbusters even at a lower price point, as fixed costs like editing, design, and marketing become less on each sale. Unit costs like shipping and printing simply no longer exist. Sell enough books, and your only real marginal cost is the royalty you pay the author.

    Consumers are smart. They know that digital distribution dramatically lowers costs. If nothing else, they learned this through the music industry. The expectation is that this savings will be mostly passed on to them. The kind of wrangling going on over ebook pricing is certainly going to be considered as a profit grab by the publishers.
  • Jake, you obviously missed the posts which explained that the pricing
    publishers are seeking on ebooks is at least partly based on the goal of
    keeping the paper books price-competitive, and that objective in turn is
    based on the desire to keep bookstores open. So the price of ebooks is not a
    direct computation of where there is equivalent royalty and profit.

    But, frankly, I also don't agree (as explained in this post) that "consumers
    are [so] smart." They tend to blame retailers for prices, not manufacturers
    and, as we say here, sometimes the publisher they might want to punish is
    not so easy to identify. And if all the brand name books are about the same
    price, the consumer choice is limited to going off-brand anyway.

    You're quite fright that the 10% of the cover price that goes to printing is
    a bit of a red herring. But the cost reductions you speak of are actually
    greater for the retailer than they are for the publisher. Another
    complication here that doesn't immediately meet the eye is that publishers
    needed to rein in the margin offered to retailers, which, imitating the
    physical world as it does, is far too generous for the much-less-costly to
    handle digital product.

    Mike
  • kellymcclymer
    Hmm. I wonder if Amazon is planning to mitigate some of the "retailer" anger with their new policy of clearly stating the "Digital List Price" "Print Price" and "Kindle Price" one right after the other for their Kindle editions. This just showed up recently. I immediately assumed it had to do with the agency model switch.

    I'm afraid that e-book readers will not happily pay to subsidize print book prices. Because they publishers have clearly established the hierarchy of paper (hardcover, trade, mass market), consumers' expectations are likely to be framed by the cost of mmp. An e-book should cost less than that version. It is possible that publishers could reframe this, but even as an author, I feel an inner resistance.

    Not to mention, as an author, I want to see the price of an e-book reflect the reality that it is not a finite resource and requires no decision to reprint if there is a bump in sales a year or two...or ten...down the line. Unlike paper books.
  • Kelly, the "digital list price" on Agency titles (on which Amazon can't
    discount) *will* be lower than the print price.

    And, just to be precise, nobody is suggesting that ebook sales "subsidize"
    the print book; what publishers are trying to accomplish is to avoid having
    the ebook cannibalize the print book through price competition. Even there,
    they aren't attempting parity, they're just minimizing the degree to which
    the retailer, who has other interests, can go to pursue those interests by
    discounting the publisher's wares.

    Mike
  • My only point in the list price change is that I can see where Amazon is planning to point anyone who wants to complain back to the publisher (thus dealing with your point about customers getting mad at the retailer). I wouldn't be surprised to see the Amazon price say something like "Publisher will not allow Amazon to discount."

    And if e-book prices are meant to be set so as not to undercut print sales (I understand the rationale for this, of course, since the P&Ls on most titles were drawn up at least two years ago), then that is subsidy, in my definition.

    I should add that your post gave me hope that there will be real competitors for Amazon in the future (though doesn't competition tend to drive prices down, not up?).

    Oy. I'm supposed to be working on my book, not thinking about things I cannot change.

  • The irony that "competition" is driving prices up, not down, has been noted
    by other observers. Of course, competition is driving the prices down;
    price-*fixing* is. But he price-fixing was enabled by the competition.

    Back to work on your book!

    Mike
  • Good piece, Mike.
    There's something nobody is addressing around the Amazon/Macmillan quarrel: the agency model that Macmillan advances --with the little help from an outside player like Apple-- allows publishers to control users' information which will be vital for us in building up our new readerships in a comunity centered world, whereas Amazon approach was not to share that information with publishers and, somehow, be a de facto publisher controlling users' data and demography.
    I don't know if I get myself through in my broken English, but that Amazon has started its own "vanity" press on lifeblood statistics about readers preferences somehow points out a strategy beyond the prices and the sales of a devise.
    The RandomHouse still criptic position makes me brood.
  • Julieta, your English comes through just fine.

    I didn't know that we knew that publishers got those names from Apple. If
    that's true, that's a new piece of information. It raises much bigger
    questions with Amazon who I am sure does not want to share any names with
    anybody. They might even take the position that they *can't* share names out
    of an obligation to their customers! But I'd say this: if one Agent gives me
    names and charges 30% and another doesn't give me names, I'd say their
    service isn't worth as much as 30%!

    Mike
  • Mike, I wasn't saying that Apple is actually giving them names: as you see, my English leads to confussion. As it was reported earlier in Publishers Lunch, in the agency model (which Apple was reluctant to accept at the beginning) "the publisher is considered as keeping possession of the actual goods (the ebook files) and it pays a commission to its authorized selling partners". Until the brag with Macmillan, Amazon licensed the files, which gives Amazon the possibility to know even when a reader has dropped the book because it didn't caught his/her attention, thanks to their distribution of the files (which Amazon "owns" under license) through Kindle. Amazon doesn't share any of this information with the publisher, whereas, in the Agency Model, the publisher will "know" where the file goes and even will know the patterns of use of those files, collecting lifeblood statistics which, until now, where in the hands of the retailer.
    Even savvy Michael Calder writes about Amazon dropping files prices because their business is on selling the devices. But yesterday, I stumbled upon this piece of information on something called "indian-server":
    "Retail giant Amazon plans to give away its Kindle ebook reader to counter the threat posed by the latest Apple product, iPad.
    According to the reports, Amazon would start the process by providing the $259 device to subscribers of Amazon Prime, a $79 per year service that provides customers free two-day shipping on everything they buy from the company."
    I'm afraid we still don't know the inside and obscured story, nor Amazon's will.
  • Julieta, if you can point me to any reference that says Amazon will, under
    the Agency arrangement, share customer data with the publisher, I'd like to
    see it. I don't think that I have seen that reported anywhere. I can see how
    it becomes a logical extension of the new arrangement, but that's implicit.
    I have not seen it explicitly stated that such data sharing will occur and,
    frankly, I'd doubt it. If you think Amazon hollered over being forced to
    raise prices, wait until you hear them scream about sharing customer data
    with publishers. (Or so I would assume; I'd be delighted if they, and you,
    could prove me wrong.

    Mike
  • KassiaKrozser
    Mike -- I think your understanding is correct. Even though the description of the agency model seems to indicate that publishers will retain control of the file until the actual sale (what is, in essence, the scan-based trading model), the reality will play out a bit differently. No matter what, it's highly unlikely that this will result in retailers providing any sort of meaningful consumer data to publishers. Apple certainly doesn't do this for music or motion picture reporting, and -- to the best of my knowledge -- no other retailer shares consumer level data beyond unit sales.

    Due to the difficulty of building infrastructure, it's not likely that publishers will retain actual control of the files being served to consumers anyway. Building and maintaining that kind of system would, in my view, be a horrible use of publisher resources (in addition to hardware, security, and software, they'd have to add human resources such as customer support). And, of course, if publishers truly retained control of the files, that would lead to even more contractual issues than we're likely to see raised in the next months.

    I suspect the Apple model is similar to how files are being processed by Amazon already. Amazon has possession (of sorts) of the master book file, and serves, in essence, copies to purchasers. It's not buying -- at least I've never heard it is -- blocks of ebooks to sell. Of course, if it were, that would lead to some fun scenarios dealing with returns, no?
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