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Practical and ethical challenges posed by digital content delivery


The New York Times published two apparently unrelated articles over the weekend which address questions raised by the rise of digital content creation and distribution. One was an op-ed piece in the Saturday paper by author Mark Aronson about the challenge of collecting the permissions necessary to include copyrighted material in enhanced ebooks. On Sunday, the Magazine published a piece by Randy Cohen, “The Ethicist”, about the rights and wrongs of downloading a pirated book file in a situation where the file’s acquirer had already bought and paid for a copy of the book presented in the file.

These are both thoughtful pieces to which I hope to add some useful observations.

Aronson’s piece elaborates on the challenge facing authors and publishers who want to include useful material in enhanced ebooks, particularly for non-fiction. He is an experienced non-fiction writer who knows about the challenge of collecting permissions for material in his books. He’s right when he says that the problem really escalates for enhanced ebooks. Aronson’s focus is on material from the “archives of the world’s art (now managed by gimlet-eyed venture capitalists” and other material controlled by museums and academic libraries.

We have lived for a long time with a very cumbersome permissions world. To use a picture of a great painting or a museum’s invention or artifact requires painstaking individual requests for permission and negotiations (usually) by the author, who is charged by contract with delivering this material with permissions already secured to the publisher. The usage matrix has been pretty well defined for print: what kind of book; what size printing; what langagues or territories affected; what number of copies to be printed, but each licensor converts that data into its own pricing policy.

The amounts of money charged are collectively of great value to the licensors. Viewed on an individual project basis, though, they are sometimes painfully high for the author or publisher but small enough for the licensor that lengthy negotiation that could lead to concessions based on mutual self-interest occurs relatively seldom.

Along come ebooks and enhanced ebooks (and, for that matter, web presentations of material in books which might be for promotional purposes.) In many cases, publishers have simply foregone the illustrated material for the digital presentation because securing the rights is either too painful or too expensive a process. The process that publishing has lived with in the print world needs to be fixed, says Aronson, and then we can move on to do something about how this can work better for digital content delivery as well.

So, far, I agree with him. It is the specifics of his remedy with which I’d suggest some modification.

Aronson’s suggeston for print is that the Author’s Guild and Association of American Publishers combined (coincidentally or not, the two entities who are the plaintiffs and negotiators of the Google Books settlement currently pending) establish a “grid of standard rates” and then “compel rights holders to confirm to industry norms.”

Two problems with that. One is that the AG and AAP are really not in the business of securing licenses for publishers. The entity that is in that business is Copyright Clearance Center, the CCC (and, full disclosure: our client.) What Aronson is suggesting is actually a hybrid of two kinds of licensing that CCC enables: “collective” licensing, such as is done for photocopying where companies agree to allow their material to be copied, CCC collects annual licensing fees from corporations and other entities, and shares them based on surveys of actual usage; and individual licenses granted by a copyright-owner for use on the c/r owner’s terms. In the latter case, CCC facilitates many of the transactions but doesn’t tell the rightsholder what to charge (or conversely, tell the licensor what to pay.)

CCC is positioned better than any other entity to attack this problem, but it’s much harder to implement such a simple solution for printed books. The differences in value of different copyrighted material can be vast and the rightsholders know that. The owners of the most valuable material are going to be reluctant to license it for an “average” fee and there is nothing the AG or AAP or CCC could do to compel or persuade them to act against their own interests.

Rightsholders know that when a book is created and printed, many tens, perhaps hundreds, of thousands of dollars of investment are involved. They want their fair share which, from their perspective, would be “what the traffic would bear”, not an arbitrary, standard amount.

But the enhanced ebook problem that triggered Aronson’s piece, and for which he offers the additional “solution” of payments based on actual sales (i.e. downloads), might actually be amenable to a collective-based licensing solution (but still a hybrid.)

In the case of enhanced ebooks, the marketplace is going to be much more challenging. There will be many more rights requests because relief from the minimum investments in printing will put far more creative works into play. And at the same time, the pool of potential licensors is growing by leaps and bounds as we move toward a digital camera in the hands of every cell phone user. Because the barriers to entry for ebooks, enhanced or otherwise, are so much lower than for press-run books, these will reach a point (if they haven’t already) where the cost of the transaction — reaching the right person, connecting with them, describing the potential licensed use and negotiating the price — is going to be more than it is worth, regardless of the licensing fee. And these costs will effectively be driving down the licensing fee.

Imagine if each bar had to negotiate with each songwriter to put their tune in the jukebox. That’s a considerably less complicated problem than the one we’ll have with images and text licenses for ebooks, and still it can only be solved with a collective licensing solution from BMI or ASCAP, which deliver a service close to what CCC does for photocopying.

So we see applying a hybrid similar to what Aronson describes, but with some nuanced differences. The future we’d imagine is for CCC to start gathering rights for a reservoir of content that can be licensed on a standardized basis for ebooks and web use, with the understanding that the fee for each individual use is going to be low enough that it wouldn’t have been worth the transaction cost on both sides to have negotiated it. The most valuable material would remain outside that reservoir (because the rightsholders wouldn’t agree to put it in) and would, therefore, be bypassed by most licensors when they put their products together. So if you hold your stuff out you can sell it for more each time, but you’re likely to sell it less often.

Aronson’s explicit concern is that only the “most popular subjects” will be covered in enhanced ebooks under the present regime. The solution suggested here would probably appeal to the owners of material on the least popular subjects; those that are rarely licensed now and where anything that would encourage more widespread use would be attractive.

It is also important to remember that digital presentations have a capability print doesn’t: they can deliver the reader directly to the digital doorstep of the licensor with a link. If you run an obscure museum with an obscure collection of art and artifacts, a linked licensed image could deliver you traffic and customers very effectively. A program such as what we’re envisioning here could make the link a standard component of the licensing arrangement.

The bottom line on this story is that I agree with Aronson that we need a new model for permissions in the digital world or important creativity and commerce will be choked. But we have to start with the pool of material that is of the least individual value in order to start at all. As that pool grows and is used increasingly, the incentive will grow for rightsholders to place more and more of their material in it.

As for the Ethicist…

The question arose because somebody who bought the 1,074-page new Stephen King novel didn’t want to carry it around on a trip and found the publisher had not yet issued an ebook. This person, who says they “generally disapprove of illegal downloads” felt they were okay in this case because they had previously bought the book and the publisher wasn’t facilitating their need for a digital copy.

The Ethicist agreed.

This position outraged my friend, the literary agent Richard Curtis who, on his eReads blog, takes strong exception. Quoting Richard’s two most emphatic paragraphs:

These dirtbags now have a champion in Randy Cohen. Go on, help yourself. The author and publisher have been paid once and don’t need to be paid for another edition of the same book.  While you’re at it, rip off the book club and the mass market paperback editions.

Cohen’s exculpation of this morally challenged idiot buying an e-book from a pirate site is the equivalent of condoning the purchase of black market goods from a fence. Does anybody know what Talmudic tractate he consulted to justify stealing – to describe it as “illegal” but not “immoral?” If so, we invite you to submit chapter and verse.

Personally, I find the characterization “stealing” overblown (obvious to me, but I might well be provoked to explain more by commenters to this post) and the distinction between “ethical” and “legal” perfectly comprehensible.

The Ethicist’s piece already acknowledged Richard’s point of view. Cohen interviewed and quoted his own friend, Jamie Raab of Grand Central Publishing (Hachette) who said:

“Anyone who downloads a pirated e-book has, in effect, stolen the intellectual property of an author and publisher. To condone this is to condone theft.”

I see this as a digital transition problem (it won’t be long before an ebook edition is available for every book for which a print book is available) and, if the author is suffering in this case (and I’m not sure there’s any demonstration here that the author is), it is partly the fault of the publisher whose policies haven’t matured sufficiently to deliver a cash customer what they want to buy.

Would Raab or Curtis have taken a different position if the King book purchaser in question had scanned his or her own copy to make a digital file to carry in their ereader? Or would they consider that a legitimate “first sale” right? (And what would a court say?) It is hard for me to understand how the King reader who, after all, paid more for the print copy than they would have for an ebook if the publisher had made an ebook available should be characterized as a “thief” (Raab) or a “dirtbag” (Curtis.)

Joe Esposito and I wrote a piece almost four years ago strongly suggesting that publishers should declare a clear policy about the digital rights conveyed with the purchase of a print book. We wrote the piece in the earliest period of contention about what Google was doing scanning books, so our point was made from a library-centric perspective. But we anticipated problems like this one and we concluded our piece this way:

Developed, articulated policies about digital licensing are a much better way to protect publishers’ interests than lawsuits against marketing channels. The next decade or two will see the relationship between digital and printed content dramatically recast. Publishers can embrace that relationship, or watch it—and themselves—fall apart.

I’d say that the publisher and author would be standing on much firmer ground to complain if there were a stated policy about the digital rights that are conferred with a print purchase. The mere act of creating this policy would force a publisher to think through situations exactly like this one, which I really don’t think many have.

Where we stand now is that laws and policies written before any of these issues were contemplated (or possible) are transparently inadequate and insensitive to current reality. As a guy who accepts the necessity of DRM specifically to discourage casual sharing that could seriously undermine the commercial basis of publishing, I’m on board with the idea that we in the industry want to steer people away from piracy. But I don’t think we’re going to win many friends, or many arguments, putting no policy in place to cover these situations and then villifying paying customers who try to address their own legitimate needs.

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  • http://www.rowenachery.com rowenacherry

    Excellent analysis. Just to be clear, a reader who buys a hardback or paperback has “first sale rights”. However, there are no “first sale rights” for e-books (because the creation of an e-book involves reproduction).

    A solution might be that a hardback purchase ought to automatically come with a complimentary download of an electronic version (subject to contract between author and publisher).

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    Rowena, the free download to go with the hard copy version is an idea
    Esposito and I toyed with a few years ago and it is an idea that has been
    tried out by Thomas Nelson recently, although I don't know how successfully.

    Mike

  • http://www.rowenachery.com rowenacherry

    It will be interesting to watch Thomas Nelson's results, if they are available.

    I wrote “hardback”, you replied with “hard copy”. I don't suggest that a free download ought to be available with a paperback version.

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    OK, Rowena, didn't mean to stretch your generosity! I actually think it
    could work for both because ebook pricing will routinely be lower than any
    print edition available.

    Mike

  • http://www.rowenachery.com rowenacherry

    Mike,
    I hope you don't mind if I continue this discussion with some actual numbers based on sales in multiples of 10. Let's start with a real ebook's sales with a reasonably generous e-Publisher.

    In a 3-month period, Mating Net (an old novella) sells 5 copies by direct download for $3.
    I receive 0.87 per copy sold. ($4.35)
    A further 5 copies are sold via a distributor. My share of that is 0.37 per copy sold (1.85).

    For the sale of 10 e-copies in one quarter, I receive a check for $6.20 for that quarter in the following quarter.

    (I will not go into how many downloads of the same book I've seen pirated in a 10 hour period recently!)

    One of my newer paperbacks (published by a respected New York print publisher) was sold as a Kindle for one quarter.

    Assume 10 copies were sold. My share was 85% of 4%…. for that quarter, on the sale of 10 e-books, I received $1.23. For direct sales of 10 paperbacks (selling for $6.99), I received $2.28

    Bottom Line
    10 e-books with an e-publisher = $6.20
    versus
    10 Kindles of my paperback= $1.23
    10 paperbacks with a print publisher = $2.28

    At the moment, my 58-page e-book earns me more than double the royalties that my 300-page print books do.

    If the market is going to demand that I give away an e-version with each paperback I'd be better off selling e-books with an e-book publisher.

    I suspect that hardback contracts are more generous to authors.

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    I can certainly see why you wouldn't want to give the ebook away with a
    paperback, based on these numbers.

    But all the numbers are going to change. Ebook royalties are going to up;
    print book royalties are going to down. Ebook sales are going to go up;
    print book sales are going to go down.

    So whatever is true today might not be true tomorrow.

    Mike

  • http://www.rowenachery.com rowenacherry

    I agree with you!

  • http://librosenlanube.blogspot.com Julieta Lionetti

    Quote:I see this as a digital transition problem (it won’t be long before an ebook edition is available for every book for which a print book is available) and, if the author is suffering in this case (and I’m not sure there’s any demonstration here that the author is), it is partly the fault of the publisher whose policies haven’t matured sufficiently to deliver a cash customer what they want to buy. Unquote.

    Mike, I'm afraid I strongly disagree this time. That I don't put my house for sale does not allow somebody who would like eventually to buy it to become a tresspasser.

    Digital transition is a trick business.

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    Julieta, you have put your finger on precisely what I said I'd be forced to
    explain (that seems obvious to me): that the real-world analogies — such as
    those presented by Curtis and Raab and mentioned in my piece (but which are
    common in our industry, by the way; their thinking is prevailing, not mine)
    – are overwrought, overblown, and inappropriate.

    In the physical world, when you steal something, the person who had it can't
    use it anymore. Somebody trespassing on your house is obviously depriving
    you of value in any number of ways. They are taking something FROM you.

    That is clearly not the case in the example the Ethicist dealt with. The
    customer had bought the damn book. They had given Stephen King, Simon &
    Schuster, and some intermediary some multiple of what they'd have given for
    the ebook. They'd have been willing to give them *more* to get the ebook
    again after they'd bought the print book!

    Now, you can say that this person “broke the law” and “violated copyright”
    by downloading the pirated ebook file. Those statements would be true but,
    to my way of thinking in the real world we live in today, require more of an
    description than just that for me to know whether they were right or wrong.
    The needs of this consumer are so obvious that I'm quite convinced they will
    be addressed almost universally within two or three years. It will be seen
    commercially that this complaint is a totally legitimate gripe, that it is
    contrary to the interests of publishers, authors, and readers to allow it to
    persist, and the bundling offers will be made. If this is inevitable, how
    can we possibly castigate this person as the equivalent of an illegal
    squatter or somebody who steals somebody's diamond ring (or book!) Do you
    think we're ever going to make *those* things legal? Or acceptable?

    This is *not* the same as somebody who downloads pirated books to avoid
    buying them! Except to the law. And what I'd call copyright traditionalists.

    Mike

  • http://librosenlanube.blogspot.com Julieta Lionetti

    Mike, how would you tell one from the other? The frustrated customer and the one who just avoids paying? Besides, is customer frustration enough to justify piracy or any other anti-social behavior?
    Maybe I'm a copyright traditionalist, but to publish an e-book or not to publish, in our society, is still the exclusive right of author and publisher. Are my rights as customer above my rights as citizen?

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    Julieta, you can only tell one from the other when you know the facts. I'm
    not suggesting that publishers do anything different: that they take off DRM
    or stop trying to take down pirate files, or anything like that. I'm just
    saying that failing to see the difference between the behavior of this *
    customer* and somebody who actually *is* a thief is short-sighted and
    illogical.

    And I didn't confer the *right* to this person to do anything, and neither
    did the ethicist. That's a *legal *question.

    I repeat an earlier point, because I don't think the distinction could be
    made more clearly. We're talking about behavior that *will be accepted* in a
    very short time. That is: we *will* accept that somebody paying top dollar
    for a physical book will be entitled to the ebook for free or for cheap.
    (Thomas Nelson, for one, already does!) Doesn't that in and of itself make
    the distinction clear between the behavior of the person I call a customer
    (and others call a thief) and somebody who pirates to avoid payment or
    squats in your house?

    Mike

  • http://librosenlanube.blogspot.com Julieta Lionetti

    You have been very clear, Mike. Or we give away e-books simultaneously with the launch of hardcover editions, or we are prone to customers behavior as avengers of our lack of vision. I have nothing against giving away the e-book version as a premium for the purchase of the analogical book; even more, I think it is one of the futures of the book. But let it be *my* own decision together with the author.
    I'm not calling them *thieves*, but I don't like them as avengers.

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    I am only trying to make the point that it isn't cut and dried; it isn't the
    same as somebody stealing an object or even the use of somebody's property
    and that there IS an ethical or moral distinction between whether the person
    doing so has bought the book or not. There are plenty of people who think
    the principles of copyright are so important that any violation of it should
    be resisted and, perhaps, punished. But I don't think it's sensible or
    practical to elide the difference between what is done by a customer and
    what is done by somebody who evades being a customer.

    Mike

  • davidsucher

    Interesting article by Aronson but I didn't get the distinction between 'permissions' and 'fair use,' no matter whether books are pbooks or are 'enhanced' ebooks.

    There are separate issues of physical access in a performance hall or museum, or if you really do need physically obtaining a portion of a video.

    But taking the simpler issue of a quote from a copyrighted book in which you want to use a paragraph (some clearly small amount) or a photograph of an architectural work, isn't that in most cases 'fair use?'

    Aronsom made it sound as if one needed permission for everything whether it is just a small quote or visible in public. (And yes publishers do try to make it sound as if a small quote requires explicit permission but that doesn't make it the law.)

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    David , IANAL, but two observations on yours.

    There are rights issues that go beyond fair use, such as some ownership
    claimed by famous buildings, works of art, etc.

    And furthermore, regardless of the rights and wrongs of various claims,
    deep-pocketed people can make your life miserable if you haven't secured
    permission in advance, however you interpret fair use. (Even if you
    interpret it correctly.)

    Mike

  • Debra Hemminger

    I agree with Cohen and you that the reader was not guilty of a moral wrong by downloading a copy of the book he'd already paid for. But there is one issue I haven't seen addressed in any of the responses to Cohen's position. When the reader downloaded the pirated copy was he morally wrong because that download encouraged the illegal activity of others? I'm referring to the people who really are stealing when they upload or download an unauthorized copy.

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    Debra, that's a reasonable question about which reasonable people can
    disagree. I really don't have much of an opinion on it. The only point I was
    trying to make was that we need to have a more nuanced view of these
    web-based activities and not tar all behavior that lawyers and copyright
    zealots would lump as “the same” with the same brush. And my secondary point
    is that publishers and authors should be respectful of people that pay them
    real money. The broader questions of how to tackle piracy I will leave to
    others that, among other things, think controlling it is actually possible!

    Mike

  • Luv4writers

    I agree with Debra. There is a moral issue here that the Ethicist seems to gloss over, if not outright avoids.

    We live in communities. In my opinion we are, therefore, responsible for not only our own well being and that of our families, but also to our community's well being.

    The issue is not the ethics of downloading a pirated copy. It is the ethics of not reporting, let alone supporting, blatantly illegal activity of a host site providing pirated materials.

    The question the Ethicist should have addressed is: Which is the greater ethical wrong? The behavior of the pirates, or the behavior of a good person who elects to look away?

    What ultimately comes of communities when good people stop looking out for the well being of their fellow members?

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    That's a reasonable point of view, but it sort of moves the ball on the
    question. I think that what you're suggesting is that anybody who finds a
    pirate site is responsible for “reporting” it somehow. I can't say that's
    morally wrong, but I think you'll find very ethical people if that's the
    threshhold.

    As for “blatantly illegal activity” being the standard for an ethical
    requirement, you'll never persuade me of that one as long as smoking pot or
    gambling is illegal. Do you report every instance of either of those you
    ever see? Do you know anybody who does?

    Mike

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  • steve

    Rowena:

    Sometimes, for certain kinds of nonfiction books, I like to have both versions of the book, hardcover to flip through and electronic to read on my Kindle without eyestrain. If publishers adopted your proposal, they'd be making less money off of somebody like me.

    Or I could give (or sell) my hardcopy to a friend or relative with similar tastes, somebody who would buy the same book anyway.

    In either case, the publisher makes less money than they would otherwise.

    I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, just that there would be a downside. I don't know what the right pricing model should be.

  • http://www.rowenachery.com rowenacherry

    Steve,
    I do understand that an author of hardbacks and their publisher would make less money from a reader such as yourself.

    On the other hand, there's a lot to be said for the argument that someone who pays full (note…”full”) price for a new (note…”new”) hardback ought to be entitled to every reasonable perquisite for their reading comfort and reading convenience. If you pay top dollar for a new hardback, it doesn't seem right that you should be nickel and dimed for an e-version of the same book.

    Also, it ought to be good business to encourage readers like you, as long as the author, the author's agent, and the publisher all agree to the arrangement.

    I'm less thrilled to infer that you'd keep your legal ebook and sell the hardcopy…. but it's better than the alternative, which would be you sharing or selling your legal ebook.

  • http://idealog.com/blog Mike Shatzkin

    For what it's worth, my hunch is that the ebook will be a gift from the
    publisher for every hardback buyer before very much longer (a couple of
    years) as a standard matter. Thomas Nelson has anticipated this idea
    already. The reason is that publishers will be wising up to the need to have
    a direct relationship with the end user, and having people come to them to
    claim their free ebook serves that objective.

    Mike

  • http://www.rowenachery.com rowenacherry

    Agreed, Mike,

    Especially if, as you suggest, the purchaser comes to the publisher. He might then–as a condition of receiving his ebook– sign on to a brief but explicit understanding that the complimentary ebook is for use in conjunction with the hardback, and is not to be sold or shared or otherwise reproduced or distributed separately.

    The benefit for authors might be more hardback contracts, and/or more generous contracts for the inclusion of ebook rights.

    Even Google is proposing to pay Registered authors 35%, as I understand it.

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