Reality changes more slowly than I like to think


I did a panel yesterday at NYU as part of the summer publishing program on “New Visions” for publishing. The group was put together by Leslie Schnur. I shared the stage with four very articulate co-presenters who gave very diverse views of the future. Our audience was a full room of about 50-100 (I wasn’t counting; I didn’t know I’d be writing this piece) very attentive 20-somethings with a serious interest in publishing.

Dan Simon of Seven Stories Press spoke optimistically of a revival of book reading, as in printed ones, and he spoke passionately about the importance of editorial selection and advocacy as part of a social mission publishers have to bring good writing to readers.

Carol Hoenig, a writer and consultant who works with Author Solutions, told about her own experience successfully self-publishing a novel (she thinks selling 1500 copies is successful, and I agree with her) and explaining how Author Solutions helps aspiring writers “get past the gatekeepers.”

Brian O’Leary of Magellan explained the new business models enabled by print-on-demand and how to think about them. Brian pointed out that POD models make sense for books that sell as many as 500 or 1000 copies a year, and that caught Dan’s attention, because, as he put it, “a book that sells 500 or 1000 a year is solid backlist for us.” Dan has been comfortable printing a 3 year supply; Brian’s math suggests reconsidering that formula.

Will Schwalbe, who had a 21-year career as one of New York’s top commercial editors at Morrow and Hyperion, explained his new web business, Cookstr.com, which aggregates recipes from more than 300 of the top chefs and cookbook authors in the world. Since, as any reader of this blog knows without my having to report, I used my presentation time to talk about the shift from horizontal to vertical, Will’s presentation had the great virtue of reinforcing the message I had delivered three presentations before.

Will made good use of the audience. He asked, by a show of hands, how many people liked Italian food. Just about everybody. How many cooked? Almost everybody. How many people got recipes on the Internet? A lot. How many baked more than cooked? A good chunk. How many vegans? About none. How many vegetarians? A handful. How many would prefer a recipe with fewer than five ingredients? Quite a few.

He used that device to show how the tagging he invests in on his web site delivers a better user experience for somebody looking for precisely the right great recipe. What it triggered in my mind is “what an interesting way to collect information from an audience.”

After we all presented, there were lots of interested questions. What’s the business model of Cookstr? How does Seven Stories go about finding those great books Dan wants to publish? Does Author Solutions do publicity for books?

As the conversation evolved to a close, I realized I had a precious opportunity. Though I’m considered to be wildly (crazily?) forward-thinking in some circles, expecting print runs of books to nearly disappear in 20 years, for example, I am unabashedly conservative in others. For example, the idea of books as collaborative or social experiences leaves me cold and it really leaves me cold to think of interrupting good narrative reading to explore links and, particularly, to see video. Some people think storytelling will be reinvented to take advantage of things like this, which makes me scratch my head. But maybe it’s generational, I always think. Maybe today’s generation would find it boring not to have a video interlude interrupt unbroken text. Well, with all these very smart Born Digitals in one room, I’d use Schwalbe’s technique and ask!

So, with time running out, I got the indulgence of the organizers to ask the crowd a couple of questions. The first one was: “how many of you read ebooks.”

Two hands went up. Two.

The next question was not worth asking. But I sure got a dose of new information to ponder.


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  • so, if you asked "how many of you own Kindles", would the same two hands go up? What if you asked, "how many of you would rather carry 25 lbs of textbooks over eBooks"...

    It is all in the question.

    besides - it is a done deal....

    http://michaelejahn.blogspot.com/2009/06/there-has-been-significant-change-to.html
  • Michael, I wasn't trying to ask a trick question. As I said in the post, I wanted to find out how people of the audience's generation felt about having ebooks where the narrative was interrupted (or enhanced) by video. If they don't read ebooks, there's not much point in asking that question. And knowing that everybody in the room didn't want to carry 25 pounds of textbooks wouldn't have helped.
  • michaelejahn
    Hi Mike,

    I am not sure I understand what you were asking - and actually, i am still unsure what you are asking (or why). In 1979, if you asked a room full of people if they would trust a machine in a hotel to dispense money from your checking account, everyone would say hell no. If you were at a banking convention and asked that question to a group of bank owners the same question, they would answer in kind.

    that was MY point, the question, and how it is framed - matters.

    related to your personal feelings about having your eBook reading experience interrupted by a video...

    I would say 'well, that depends' - is this a free e-textbook that has "commercials" (still ads or video ads) - then yes, I would be thrilled to have the free option with commercials and also the "I will pay 150 bucks for the commecial free version...

    If the example is "well, I just want to read my book" - well, we certainly have lost of option for free at http://www.ibiblio.org/index.html

    but then again, even an old fart like me does like to "read" a rich media "eBook" like these

    http://wechoosethemoon.org/


  • Michael Jahn, you can't possibly be a much older fart than I am!
    I guess I have failed twice to make myself clear; I'll try once more. I have
    been reading ebooks for 10 years. I prefer them to printed books. I don't
    want anything enhanced: just the same book delivered on a handheld device
    that I can read with one hand and that is light and easy to carry around.
    For years I have heard people say that "the trouble with ebooks" is that
    they don't really use the technology. They should have links; they should
    have video; they should have annotation, etc. etc. I don't agree.

    I wondered whether my resistance was in some way generational. I had a
    roomful of bright 20-somethings who might have a different take on long form
    reading than I do, so I thought I'd query them on the question. But I
    thought, before I ask "how do you like your ebooks?" I had better make sure
    I was asking people who actually READ ebooks. So that's why I started with
    that question and, having gotten the answer "virtually none" decided not to
    answer the second question.

    It would not have accomplished my purpose to ask a different question,
    although it might have been more fruitful in other ways.

    Mike
    --------------------
    Mike Shatzkin
    http://idealog.com/blog
    mike@idealog.com
    Founder & CEO
    The Idea Logical Company, Inc.
    Co-founder: Filedby, Inc.
    212-758-5670
  • michaelejahn
    Hi Mike,

    I am 54. I have read many many books. Lots of 'em. Own quite a few. Some hard copy, some not. I will not be buying any physical books anymore. I bought a Kindle, so I read eBooks now. I can assure you - there are no such 'issues' of unsolicited video popping unto my Kindle screen as I read my copy of "Spies"

    http://www.amazon.com/Spies-Rise-Fall-KGB-America/dp/0300123906

    I like to read on the plane and in my hotel room with my little Mighty Bright (it is a Clip-On Light)

    If I were trying to do research, i would love a little "make it like a web page" button that revealed or exposed underlying links, metadata and 'click here for more' type things - but when i am reading, i would prefer that crap is hidden.

    So, I vote for both cake ownership and 'eat it too' access.

    (smile)


  • We're pretty similar, Michael. I am 62 and have been reading ebooks almost
    exclusively for ten years. Since I bought the Kindle 18 months ago, I have
    read one book in paper. But I gave the Kindle to my wife in May and now read
    exclusively on the iPhone. I also don't need distractions; just give me the
    book. But in the digerati circles I travel in, lots of people think that's
    pretty boring, restricted, and unforward-thinking. That's why I wanted to
    query a bunch of smart young people to see if they'd tell me something
    different than what I think you and I both believe.
  • Michael Jahn, you can't possibly be a much older fart than I am!
    I guess I have failed twice to make myself clear; I'll try once more. I have
    been reading ebooks for 10 years. I prefer them to printed books. I don't
    want anything enhanced: just the same book delivered on a handheld device
    that I can read with one hand and that is light and easy to carry around.
    For years I have heard people say that "the trouble with ebooks" is that
    they don't really use the technology. They should have links; they should
    have video; they should have annotation, etc. etc. I don't agree.

    I wondered whether my resistance was in some way generational. I had a
    roomful of bright 20-somethings who might have a different take on long form
    reading than I do, so I thought I'd query them on the question. But I
    thought, before I ask "how do you like your ebooks?" I had better make sure
    I was asking people who actually READ ebooks. So that's why I started with
    that question and, having gotten the answer "virtually none" decided not to
    answer the second question.

    It would not have accomplished my purpose to ask a different question,
    although it might have been more fruitful in other ways.

    Mike
    --------------------
    Mike Shatzkin
    http://idealog.com/blog
    mike@idealog.com
    Founder & CEO
    The Idea Logical Company, Inc.
    Co-founder: Filedby, Inc.
    212-758-5670
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