When the entry level employee knows more than the manager


Here’s how we’ve been putting together the program for Digital Book World.

First, I dreamed up a list of panel “topics” that I thought touched the key issues and concerns facing general trade publishers today as a result of digital change. Then we ran that list past our illustrious and helpful Board of Advisors, who pointed out some places where consolidation would be appropriate and dismissed a couple of ideas as klunkers.

That left us with a list of topics longer than we can use: we have between 18 and 24 panel slots and well over 40 ideas in hand. We figured that some would be harder to fill than others and things would sort themselves out as we recruited panelists.

In the process of discussing things with our Advisors, new ideas also surfaced. One of them is now looking prescient.

At a meeting at Macmillan with Advisory Board member Ami Greko and a couple of her colleagues, an interesting topic arose. What happens when the entry level employee knows more than the manager about how to use digital tools or play in a digital space?

After all, the top marketers in trade publishing houses honed their skills in a different era. They don’t necessarily know how to use Twitter or Facebook or Ning. But the people they’re hiring to fill entry level jobs have been on Facebook for years and they have probably already used it to organize something. Who would tell whom what to do here? Who would be in charge? And how do we apply the content-and-market knowledge that is developed through years of book experience to promotional venues that are best managed by green marketers (and we don’t mean “green” in the environmental sense!)

Although that panel figured to go on the list of those likely to be “harder to fill”, it seemed to us like an important topic.

And we got evidence this weekend that we’re not the only ones with that thought in mind, although perhaps publishers are seeing it a bit differently. The Bookseller reports that a survey by an organization called “Skillset” has revealed knowledge gaps in UK publishing houses.

Suzanne Ashley, Skillset publishing sector manager, said the report had revealed specific problem areas within training and recruitment.

She said: “There are those who know the business really well—often those who are more experienced, middle-management types—who are very uncomfortable with the wholly changing digital landscape.”

The question not being answered is whether those who “know the business really well” might actually be uncomfortable with the young people new to their team who live in, and are quite comfortable with, the changing digital landscape. That’s the question I hope we’ll explore constructively at Digital Book World. If any managers or recent recruits have thoughts to offer on this question, we want to hear from you.


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  • Knowing how to use the latest power tool doesn't mean much if you don't know how to build a house.

    A session focusing on the evolution of different publishing roles and where technology has had the most impact might be interesting, but only if there was a broad range of experience represented. I'd love to see a panel that included a publisher, an editor, a marketer, a sales rep, a bookseller, and an author, all with varied and differing opinions.

    PS: Media Daily News noted a while back that the digital side of the ad agency business "is scaling more quickly than the talent." If publishers focus on the tools instead of the strategy, they're going to face a similar dilemma.

    http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=104498
  • An interesting idea, Guy, and one that should certainly be part of this
    session. Thanks.
    Mike
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  • timhowls
    Great blog.
    Might like to check out mine here: www.bookorbit.blogspot.com.
    Thanks and best wishes,
  • Thanks for point me to your blog. It's great. We'll put you on our blogroll.
    Mike
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    Mike Shatzkin
    http://idealog.com/blog
    mike@idealog.com
    Founder & CEO
    The Idea Logical Company, Inc.
    Co-founder: Filedby, Inc.
    212-758-5670
  • Name
    certainly they're uncomfortable. scared even. because we young'uns will be taking over earlier than expected.
  • Yes, but WHAT will the young 'uns be "taking over"? Certainly hard times and
    salary cutting help bring the future you predict, but to what end?
    Mike
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    Mike Shatzkin
    http://idealog.com/blog
    mike@idealog.com
    Founder & CEO
    The Idea Logical Company, Inc.
    Co-founder: Filedby, Inc.
    212-758-5670
  • Yes, but WHAT will the young 'uns be "taking over"? Certainly hard times and
    salary cutting help bring the future you predict, but to what end?
    Mike
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    Mike Shatzkin
    http://idealog.com/blog
    mike@idealog.com
    Founder & CEO
    The Idea Logical Company, Inc.
    Co-founder: Filedby, Inc.
    212-758-5670
  • What I know of publishing comes from the authors' side of the fence. I see a lot of frightened people in editorial and marketing (I don't have much contact with other areas) promoted beyond their competence--particularly with regard to their management skills--and sticking desperately to What People Say Used to Work.

    In my opinion this could be two panels: one, how to teach management skills to editorial types (how to successfully direct those whose familiarity with and experience of, say, social media, outpace the manager's), and, two, how to understand the difference between a skill (how to use Facebook/Twitter) and a worldview ("I can't live without Facebook/Twitter and nor can anyone I know") and how to adapt to and learn same.

    The latter has been discussed for years by Marc Prensky et al. The former, well, I just happen to have a particular interest...

    But on the whole, in publishing terms, I agree with Jane. This is a management issue. And managing is skill that can be learned like any other.

    Nicola

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    Nicola Griffith
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  • Thanks, Nicola. I agree that management is a skill that can be learned.
    That's why I want to find publishing managers who have dealt with this
    challenge and ask them to talk about how they do it.
    Mike
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    Mike Shatzkin
    http://idealog.com/blog
    mike@idealog.com
    Founder & CEO
    The Idea Logical Company, Inc.
    Co-founder: Filedby, Inc.
    212-758-5670
  • Would it have to be publishing managers, or would you be happy with managers in any field who have tackled this problem? (The skills are the skills--mostly. Though every industry has some unique difficulties/joys.)
  • Thanks, Nicola. I agree that management is a skill that can be learned.
    That's why I want to find publishing managers who have dealt with this
    challenge and ask them to talk about how they do it.
    Mike
    --------------------
    Mike Shatzkin
    http://idealog.com/blog
    mike@idealog.com
    Founder & CEO
    The Idea Logical Company, Inc.
    Co-founder: Filedby, Inc.
    212-758-5670
  • At first blush, this feels more like a management and leadership topic. Good managers/leaders naturally surround themselves with people who are in fact more knowledgeable or have expertise in areas where they do not, and know how to leverage it. Senior managers and leaders should know what goes into a good business decision and know how to ask the right questions—do they really have any reason to feel uncomfortable? (And for now, I'm putting aside the fact that managers/leaders ought to be keeping up on trends/new tools sufficiently enough to have an intelligent discussion.)

    This seems like an interesting online discussion, but something that might struggle as a focused panel.
  • Jane, you're certainly right that it is a management and leadership problem,
    but it was one uniquely brought on by digital change and the generational
    change that accompanies it. Whether it will make a good panel topic depends
    entirely on whether we can find smart and articulate people who say it's
    something they can relate to and want to talk about. We haven't found them
    yet, but I think we will.
    And while all you say is true, I also think it is true that, in the past, a
    publicity director knew very well how to do the jobs of all the people
    reporting to him or her. I don't think that's true today. That's a big
    change that publishers are dealing with and, if we can find the right people
    to talk about it, I'd like to cover it.

    Mike
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    Mike Shatzkin
    http://idealog.com/blog
    mike@idealog.com
    Founder & CEO
    The Idea Logical Company, Inc.
    Co-founder: Filedby, Inc.
    212-758-5670
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